Reconnecting with Your Inner Guidance: How Intuition Shapes Our Lives

Michael Herst
00:00:00

Hey, one more thing before you go. Have you ever wondered what it means to truly live a life led by spirit?

How can intuition shape not just our personal lives, but our business as well?

In this episode, we're going to answer these questions and more when we have a conversation with a truly extraordinary guest, a kirandara and spirit intermediary who. Don't worry, we'll talk about that. Who has been hearing spirit since the age of four?

Carolina Guterres unique blend of spiritual gifts, social work, education and business acumen offer a fresh perspective on living a grounded, spirit led life, which we all should do.

We're going to share her journey of walking between worlds and discovering how to reconnect with your internal guidance, recognize the power of spirit in everything you do and gain actionable tips to integrate spirituality into your daily life. So whether you're seeking meaning, purpose, or practical advice, Carolina's insights will inspire you to think about work and life from inside out.

Stay tuned for an enlightening conversation that will promises to move you deeply and provide you with tools to live a more connected and purposeful life. I'm your host, Michael Herst. Welcome to One More Thing Before You Go. My guest is Carolina Guterres.

She's a kurienda, which we're going to talk about, and a spirit intermediary that walks between worlds in a medium that has been hearing her spirit since the age of four. Carolina believes in living a grounded life that is led by spirit. She's passionate about the mental wellness that comes from a spiritual life.

Her rare ability to speak to the energy of spirit, business and feelings. She taps into the heart of people who are searching for meaning and purpose in their lives.

Carolina intuitively weaves practicality with purpose and mission while encouraging her clients to do the same. And I'm looking forward to this conversation. Welcome to the show, Carolina.

Carolina Guterres
00:02:04

Thanks for having me, Michael. I'm looking forward to it.

Michael Herst
00:02:07

You have an amazing journey. I mean, in reality, I mean, starting it technically, kind of technically at four years old. That's amazing.

Carolina Guterres
00:02:17

Yeah.

So don't let that fool you in thinking that I knew what I was doing at four years old or that I understood the gift that took me until my early twenties. But, yeah, I can think back to the very first time where I was like, something's different here. Like, what is this? Right? I was very, very young. Yes.

Michael Herst
00:02:37

Well, you know, it's interesting.

I think we all as children, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we all as children, at least from what I've learned, always have kind of a gift where we're open to that veil that's there and that, you know, the society and culture kind of shut that veil off to us sometimes, and they kind of tell us, no, no, you don't really have imaginary friends, or you can't talk to people like that, or you're not supposed to see things like that. And they kind of push it down into the corner so that we kind of grow out of that mode. Did you have, you know, where did you grow up?

Did you have any kind of influence in that that kind of brought that about?

Carolina Guterres
00:03:15

Absolutely not. So, for me, I grew up in a home where I just knew from an early age that that would not be encouraged. So I never really shared that.

But I did grow up in a very religious home, so I understood the surrender of a higher power. Prayer was, you know, we were very catholic, you know, mass every Sunday type of thing. So prayer was an integral part of my everyday life.

Going to bed, you know, we would say the rosary, things of that nature. So for me, I just assumed that they were linked, and I was like, well, if this is okay, then this is okay. But I just never really shared that.

And if I had, it wouldn't have been encouraged at all. Right? And as time passed, that voice that those voices that I initially heard started to just kind of become part of my internal dialogue.

And it wasn't until I was very old that I realized that, oh, everybody doesn't have this internal dialogue or to this extent.

So I'm very, very grateful that it developed the way it did, because you don't always hear positives when someone says that they've heard voices, right? And I didn't. It wasn't until I was in school that I'm like, oh, wait, this is schizophrenia in some people, right?

But luckily, you know, when I approached it and when I was learning about it, I'm like, oh, wait, okay, schizophrenia doesn't show up so young, right? And so, yeah, definitely it.

It's allowed me to create a different perspective on a lot of things that our current reality says are not and to look at in a certain way.

Michael Herst
00:05:02

Well, especially growing up Catholic. I grew up Catholic. I'm not a practicing Catholic. You know, I haven't been practicing Catholic for quite some time.

I've gone into a more spiritual aspect, you know, so has my family. But I grew up in a very strict environment like that same thing as you did. You know, I got communion. We had to go.

I mean, went to everything, the prayers, the church every Sunday, the constant overlooking over the shoulder.

And we were taught, at least here, and we were taught that, you know, you can't talk to angels, you can't talk to this, you can't talk to that because you're not. You're not allowed to, so to speak. And, you know, ghosts don't exist. Reincarnation doesn't exist.

All those aspects of life we, you know, you kind of get pushed again, pushed in a corner.

Carolina Guterres
00:05:51

So I was lucky in that sense because I'm Latin. My parents are from Columbia. I was born in Toronto, here in Canada.

But I come from a culture where, as Catholic as that culture is, magic is woven into everyday life and. Right, so you might be Catholic, but don't go to that place because it's haunted and it's very respected. Right.

Like, oh, okay, no, you know, type of thing.

So I was exposed to environments and people that were able to hold somewhat, one would say, opposing viewpoints at the same time, still be able to be Catholic, but still recognize spirit and ghosts and bad luck and, you know, all of this stuff that in a western context would cross each other out. Right. So I'm very, very grateful for that. And it very much ties into how I practice today.

And, you know, the name that I use, curandera means female healer in Spanish. And it is a very particular type of spirit working that exists throughout the culture in the entire region. So it's kind of.

I figured out a way to marry the two. I'm not a practicing Catholic anymore. Catholic? Yeah.

Catholic rituals still make up a lot of how I work because that is how I learned to connect to a higher force at a very early age.

And I'm not going to dismiss that just because there are certain things that might no longer fit my worldview or represent how I feel or the stances that I take. But it is something that created kind of my foundational stability in interacting with that higher power.

And so they definitely weaved into my current practice.

Michael Herst
00:07:49

Yeah, well, it's nice that you had the latin perspective in regard to the approach to that realm, that environment and so forth, because I think, like you said a few minutes ago, it gave you a wider perspective of what does exist out there and how we fit into it, because I think we're all connected, and I think within that connection, we all have a, dare I say, responsibility to kind of reach into that connection because we're human, right. And we should look after each other, and we should be. We should understand that we are all connected and that we all have the same goals in life.

Which is to balance our spirituality with our beliefs and balance our needs and wants in regard to that. And the spirit world, I think, has a huge factor, plays a factor into that. Do you believe that our.

I'm jumping right into a couple of questions that just go for it. I love it because of just what we said here. Do you believe.

You look back on our upbringings, and you say, your upbringing and my upbringing, they were similar in the regard that we both were catholic in that upbringing, but you had a different look from that, and your culture presented a different look from that, which is amazing.

But do you think our ancestors, like, from the indigenous people here, Native Americans believe that our ancestors have a significant ability to be able to walk with us as we are on this journey through life. Do you agree with that?

Carolina Guterres
00:09:27

You've read through my website, Michael. You absolutely have. So 100%. They are actually my favorite topic to talk about because I have the opportunity and the.

The sacredness of coming from a variety of different ancestry, right? Being Latin, we have the first nations community. We have the transatlantic slave trade.

We have immigration to the region, and then we have the spanish and portuguese conquerors that came. And so that kaleidoscope, that rainbow of cultures, absolutely walks lock and step with me when I do this work. And I think I.

I'm a huge proponent of telling people understand your ancestry, because your ancestry 100% affects your spiritual makeup, what it is that you're drawn to and where it is that you source your power and protection from, because that doesn't go away, whether you like it or not, whether you're in good standing with your family or nothing. That is. That makes up who you are, and that is nothing that just can't change, right?

That is made, that is in this meat suit that we all carry, right? Those genetic memories that wisdom, awareness, traumas, and gifts are all interconnected and encoded in our DNA. And so fight it as you might.

You're never going to rid yourself of that legacy, whether it's good, bad, or in between. And I say that because nobody has a great legacy, right?

We come from a traumatized world that is full of wars and conflicts, difficulties, starvation, and good things, too. And so we all have that to a certain degree and in different levels in ourselves.

And so when we're working spiritually to be able to raise our vibration, overcome obstacles, trek new paths in our life, if we don't look back even just a little bit, to recognize what it is that we've come from and what it is that we're actually dealing with. In this soup, this stew that makes us up.

Then you're, in essence, walking around blindfolded with your one arm and one leg tied behind your back, working really hard to make change.

Michael Herst
00:11:56

Yeah. I think that it is important for us to understand that we have a connection not only with our past and our ancestors.

In that regard, I think that we also have a relationship between. I believe in past life regression. I actually. I'm certified as a hypnotist and regressive hypnosis, actually. Oh, nice hypothetical officer. Yeah.

So I understand it from a very significant perspective in regard to that. We used to take people back into crime scenes, and you would. It wasn't admissible in court when I was a cop because of it.

But what it did was allowed us to be able to have a wider view of what somebody may have missed. And even though it gave us leads, basically, you take somebody back to a crime scene in such a way that it allowed them to do it well.

On the same note, of course, while we were going through regression and going back through there, we, as a class, of course, delved a little into. We were like kids. Well, I was kind of a kid, you know, still 21 years old, 22 years old. But, you know, we'd sneak back and.

And play with regression into past life and so forth. So I think.

Carolina Guterres
00:13:13

Absolutely. Cause you're stumbling upon your own stuff.

Michael Herst
00:13:16

Right, exactly. So, you know, it's like a kid in the candy shop that you got to do your homework, but then you go back later and say, hey, can we do this instead?

So, for a moment, because we were talking about ancestry and how our ancestors walk with us, is there a relationship between those ancestors and past life, for example?

Carolina Guterres
00:13:42

So it depends on what tradition you are looking at, right. Because the reality is that there isn't a single known society at some point that did not practice the veneration of ancestors.

And so ancestor worship.

Ancestor veneration is sometimes interchangeable, the word, but it's not that your ancestors became deities, but it really reflected the respect and love that you had of your dearly departed. Right.

And there are traditions that say that that ancestry ties into past lives, even if the past life is not necessarily, like, let's say you were born in the US and that past life took place in Egypt or in China or somewhere where you're like, I don't really see how that possible connection can be played. Right.

I think when we look at more traditional beliefs, and that is really where the last eleven of my 20 practicing years have focused on, it really gives a much deeper understanding and awareness of kind of fills in a bit of those gaps that we can say, well, if you believe in ancestors, how does that connect to past lives? Right? And how does it connect to your spirit team? Because it's not only your ancestors that you walk with, but there's also your court.

What would, what I would call your spirit court and certain traditions would call a spiritualist tradition would call your spirit court.

And really, it's what are the guides and those spirits that walk with you on a daily basis and really kind of nudge you and guide you towards your purpose here on this planet. Right. I always say to people that are very new age and believe in manifestation, I'm like, yes, I believe in it, too.

Until it bumps up against your purpose. Right.

If that manifesting those goals that you're creating, that vision that you're seeing for yourself does not align with the purpose and why you're here, then you're just constantly going to be banging your head against the wall.

Michael Herst
00:15:55

That's an interesting approach to that, I think, if I understand this correctly. So I believe in manifestation, and I think that we do it every day. I think we manifest positive days. We manifest good things.

We manifest green lights. We manifest holiness or love in that regard.

We also try to manifest a better life for ourself, the freedom to be able to do what we want when we want. For example, we manifest a new car or manifest a new home and something like this.

So to understand what you just said, I think what you're saying is that if my purpose was not to buy.

Carolina Guterres
00:16:38

Live in that five bedroom house, for.

Michael Herst
00:16:41

Example, that'd be a good example. Thank you. You must have dug deep into my mind and found that, because I know that's what I was thinking. It just wasn't coming out. See?

So if that's not your purpose to live in that five bedroom house, then you won't necessarily get it. But to me, you shouldn't stop believing in manifestation. It just means that there.

Carolina Guterres
00:17:04

Exactly. You're not throwing the baby out with the bath water here because one thing didn't come to fruition or whatever it is. Right? And this might.

I use this example, and I'm excited to use it with you as a former cop because I think it. It speaks to this perfectly. Tell me how a criminal in jail manifests getting out of a life sentence.

Michael Herst
00:17:30

You know, that's an interesting. That's an interesting question because, you know, I think they would have to really. I would have to really think about that. Carolina, to be honest.

Carolina Guterres
00:17:41

With you, they can't, because if it's tied into their purpose, if it's tied in whatever. Listen, I'm not talking about karma. Whether he deserves, like, that's not the point.

The point is, is that if that is what he came to learn in this life, it's beating up. So you're just hitting your head constantly. Manifesting. Manifesting. But that's not going to happen. And let's say it does happen.

Let's say some jailbreak happens or one in how many? Right. It's. I say the same with, like, me wanting to be taller. Yeah, that's exactly it. I always say this about me being taller.

If I can manifest, then how do I manifest becoming taller?

Michael Herst
00:18:22

Yeah. And I. Yes, I respect that. Because in reality, when you have somebody that's in jail, you can look at it two different scenarios.

For example, if we want to take that as a. As a hypothesis, you have an individual that wants to get out of jail that may be guilty and has been proven guilty.

And I went through all the court cases, all the appeals, everything that they could possibly do legally to try to get out, and they're struggling. I got to get out, got to get out, got to get out. But they never get out.

But then, on the other hand, you've got somebody that might be innocent, because we've had several of those have come up recently.

Carolina Guterres
00:18:54

Absolutely.

Michael Herst
00:18:55

Where there's one that is innocent, they come back out and they have court.

They have individuals from the court system, from the prosecutorial perspective, that are saying, hey, we went back and looked at this case, and this person does not need to go, they shouldn't die. They're on death penalty, and they're on death row. They're gonna die. They shouldn't die because we know that they're innocent.

Everything in here was wrong. We found fallacies. If we found it didn't work.

And they're still marching down towards the death penalty to be enacted, and the governor's refusing to take action and the warden's refusal.

Carolina Guterres
00:19:31

And it's obvious, right? Like, it's obvious, obvious.

Michael Herst
00:19:33

And you know that that person sitting there is going on manifesting that they're going to come out and prove me innocent. Well, in reality, they came out and agreed that they. Yes, you are innocent. You are not supposed to be in jail. You were convicted improperly.

We have it right here in paperwork. But the system is still pushing through, and he's gonna be executed. And so in reality, apparently, he's meant to. That's his purpose. He's meant.

It's meant to happen.

Carolina Guterres
00:20:04

Maybe this life is a life. And I don't. And I don't say this to stop fighting for that person.

I say it because sometimes life is very interesting and the magic of creator in the sophisticated intricacy, that looks chaotic. But if you dig a little deeper, you see that there's this beautiful. There's these beautiful coincidences. I say that in quotation marks at play.

You know, maybe that purpose is one where he learns about deep injustice. Right. Doesn't make it right. I'm not here to say it makes it right or wrong. Right.

But, you know, life just is such a intricately woven school that we think that we see the picture, right? And it's where I rail against that manifestation, because it's like, you can create whatever you want.

And it's like, listen, I've read for people for 20 years, and you see these patterns over, and they're like, I've done everything. I don't know what to do. This just keeps showing up. Why do I date the same man?

Why do I have the same problems at work, you know, like, whatever that looks like. And you really start to wonder. I'm like, what's this purpose? Right? Because clearly there's a purpose. There's a repeated lesson in this, right?

And we have to recognize the limit that our manifestation and our free will has. And that's a very inconvenient truth for a lot of people. Right?

Because a lot of the current spiritual movement, or what I call drive by spirituality, it's whatever makes you feel good and whatever's great, and it's pretty, and it's like, yeah, but there's hard work, there's discipline. There is things that you need to acknowledge, and that ultimately, there's a greater plan at play.

And it's not just your plan and also the importance of respecting other people's plan in that as well. And I will quiet dab now. Sorry.

Michael Herst
00:22:07

No, no, that's. That's perfectly fine.

I think everything that you're saying, I think it is an important factor in realizing our own spirituality and realizing how that spirituality fits within our lifetime and how it fits within our present conditions as well. You know, it is. We're all presented with a journey in this life, and sometimes we don't understand why we're walking the path we are.

You know, I enjoyed being a law enforcement officer. I didn't imagine ever getting injured. I was a sergeant, so I had this big s on my chest, you know, for superhero and sergeant, same time.

You know, and I was planning on moving up the line like all my friends and colleagues have done. And I was angry that it was stopped abruptly and I was depressed.

I was angry, I was resentful for a long time in regard to that, because I thought, why did you take this away from me? I was doing good work, and I was helping people. And I worked at domestic violence task force. I worked at DUI task force.

I mean, I've investigated child abuse and domestic abuse to such a point that we were taking bad people off the street that needed to be taken off the street and contributed to society in a very positive way. Why did I get afflicted with what happened to me? And it took me a long time to really come to that grips as to why and what my purpose was.

And I had to redefine my purpose and redefine my journey.

And I think we all have that opportunity to look within ourselves and say that maybe it's not working out the way that I think it's going to work out, maybe it's not working out the way I'm trying to manifest, but there's something different in store for me. My path is a different pathway. I just need to open my eyes, my ears in order to see that pathway so that I can then walk towards that path.

Carolina Guterres
00:23:52

And I think you bring up a great point because that is so intrinsic to adulting, right. Because we eventually, most of us come to a challenge like that. I know I did. It took me out of the game for almost ten years, right?

And part of our role is one looking at the signs around us, right?

Recognizing that it's not, that it's not our agenda at play, that there's something else telling us, but it's also not becoming embittered by that experience because it's such a challenging experience for so many people, right. You question down to the core of who you are in those moments, right?

You know, am I living the life that I thought that, like, if I always say this to my husband, if ten year old me knew the life I was living, she'd probably be really excited. If 16 year old me knew the life that I was living, she'd be like, what is going on? What happened to you? Right?

Because it's, you know, I always say there's always a greater plan and a greater purpose. And our job isn't to think that we know the entire plan.

Our job is to notice our environment around us and pick up the little tiny breadcrumbs to take us to the next step into the next step that eventually lead us to our plan and our purpose.

Michael Herst
00:25:20

That's brilliant.

And I'm glad you're back on the path that you needed to be and where you're supposed to be, because I think that you contribute to the world in such a way that it allows individuals to see that pathway and open up to that pathway. So thank you for obviously pursuing where you're at now.

Carolina Guterres
00:25:39

Thank you. I think they drag me kicking and screaming, though, I'll be honest.

Michael Herst
00:25:43

But I do understand that, trust me. Yes. Yes, I do. As I told you before we started, I spent the first six, eight months, something like that, still calling in people to be arrested.

And it's like, you know, just. It's okay. Take a breath. Sit back. Well, on this same pathway, what started you?

When did you first recognize that you were able to speak with the spirit? I mean, you're a medium, correct?

Carolina Guterres
00:26:18

Correct. Yes.

Michael Herst
00:26:19

So I know there's different types of mediums. So can you help us understand what type of medium that you are and how you connect in. I guess, how.

How you first noticed you were that type of medium? May we?

Carolina Guterres
00:26:37

So I'm a psychic medium, so not only do I speak to the dead, but I'm also able to connect to with your own team and kind of see some of the stuff that might be coming up, some of the pitfalls that you want to avoid, things of that nature. So I offer both psychic reading.

Well, I offer a variety of different readings, but to simplify it, I offer psychic readings of kind of like, what's coming up, what do you need to be, you know, aware of or excited about? And then I also offer mediumship readings wherever were speaking to your departed loved ones that kind of show up for you in those instances.

I had a very odd, like, it's only through podcasting, actually. And I'm so happy that I was pushed into podcasting more.

It's been through this experience of interviews and of sharing my story that I recognize how different my story is from other people, and it's really started to kind of ground me more in this reality, even though I've been reading for 20 years. So I had, you know, like, odd things happened to me throughout my childhood, teenager years that didn't make sense, really.

And it was when I was in my early twenties, similar to you, I was taking a hypnosis course. Hypnosis is my first love into kind of things outside of mainstream.

And there was another medium in the workshop, and we were all out to lunch, and everyone's like, do a little mini reading on me and me. And, you know, the group was there. And when she came to me, she said, honey, you're more intuitive than I am. You need to be doing this for a living.

This is directly tied to your purpose, all those voices that you hear. Because my main gift has always been clairaudience. I have others, too, but, like, that's really the one that just has been on forever.

And she's like, you need to listen to those stories that kind of roll in your head and those images that you see when you meet a person. And you could have knocked me over with a feather when she said that because I was like, what? Medium? Medium? What are you talking about?

And I remember going home and sitting down and being, like, kind of processing the day and the voices, my spirits, my guides kicked in as usual. They're like, great, now you understand, let's get this party started type of thing, right? And I was like, oh, wow. Okay. So.

And then all of a sudden, things made sense. A lot of my life all of a sudden made way more sense. And I know it sounds wild because Hollywood and the movies do a very.

Give a very particular narrative on how people become aware of this. And I can tell you, I like, it was. It floored me in giving me this perspective that fit all of a sudden, and the pieces just came together. Right.

But I was clueless up until that point.

And to this day, I am not a, what one might call a classically trained medium that I went to mediumship school and I had other mediums guide me and stuff. No, for me, it's been my spirit. So my guide team has trained me since day one. Right.

Michael Herst
00:30:04

Which is amazing.

Carolina Guterres
00:30:05

So I have a running universe. Yeah. So I have a running university playing in my head. And, you know, that first year when I really embrace it, it was very.

It was highly uncomfortable.

Like, just it, you know, when you hear people say, oh, this is a beautiful experience, and you're listening to your spirits and they're gentle and kind, I'm like, yeah, you don't have it. You don't have it. Because if you had it, you know, you wouldn't be saying that because that's not how it is.

And I'm not saying that because I think everybody's experience is this way. I'm saying it as somebody. When you naturally have those gifts, you know, you don't know how to turn them off for a really long time.

And there's a reason behind that, right? Like, it's not just to torture you. Whatever. I. There's a, it's, it's woven into your purpose, right?

But, like, I remember going to a workshop that was being given by the learning annex here. I don't even know if the learning annex is around anymore.

And it was a medical intuitive and she was launching her book and her training for people to become medical intuitives and all that. It was a packed room. And again, I was in my early twenties, so I was one of the youngest people there.

And I put up my hand, I'm in the back, I showed up late and I put up my hand and I'm like, that sounds great and all, but how do you turn it off? And everybody in the room just gasp and turn around? They're like, oh, why would you want to turn it on? Like, it's a lot. It's a lot, you know?

And, and the, the presenter, she's like, since childhood. She just said like that, since childhood? And I said, yeah. And she goes, you can't turn it off. That's just, that's just how it is.

You got to learn to work with it. So, yeah, it's definitely been an interesting experience, but I'm very grateful for it. Now.

Michael Herst
00:31:54

It's got to be a little alarming to start hearing voices and then especially young because you said you started at four or four years old and then grew up with that, hearing voices and wondering whether or not they were real or whether or not they were coming from wherever, like you said earlier, is this schizophrenia? What is this kind of a situation?

So do you unique question, I think, in regard to this, you said you can't turn it off, but is that, like, does this come to you 24 hours a day? Does it not let you sleep?

Carolina Guterres
00:32:29

It can sometimes. Not all the time anymore. Yeah, not all the time anymore, but it can.

So, like, there are times where I'm woken up in the middle of the night, there are times where I don't fall asleep for a long time. It just depends, right? I wish I could say that you can for certain mediums that you can be like, set your boundaries, right?

Like, tell them this isn't the time. And it works for me. Like, I'm 45 now, right? Like, so it works for me. I would say now 50% of the time I can set those boundaries.

But if something is, has to come in at a very particular time because of timing. Oh, yeah. They'll just float past those boundaries like they never existed.

Michael Herst
00:33:19

It reminds me of ghost, Whoopi Goldberg and Patrick Swayze, where, you know, constantly was in the background singing. What was that? Henry VIII, because she didn't want to hear him. She was like, no, just go away. Just go away. And he's like, hey, I'm here.

I'm gonna keep doing it till you hear me. Till you hear me when. Yeah.

Carolina Guterres
00:33:44

Certain people dead are that insistent. Like, I remember I had one. One particular client, and it wasn't. I didn't think it was that important, but I don't know her life.

So it was probably super important that they did this, but she would see me at shows. Like, I do shows, I do fairs and things of that nature.

And so there are clients that my clients that have less resources will go to the fairs because I charge less than a private reading. And she was a regular. I'd been seeing her maybe for, like, a year.

We finished her reading, and the grant, it was like a great grandfather, I believe, would not leave me alone. That little man, that little italian man followed me for a. Finally. I didn't have her phone number. I didn't like, I have an email list.

So I'm like, okay. No, her first name. My husband's like, let's just look through your email list, see if we can find somebody that matches at least the first name.

And luckily, there was only one that had that name. And I'm like, great, okay. I sent her an email. I'm like, hey, it's me. I know this is weird. Can we just talk on the phone a minute?

Because I need this to go away, and this isn't going away, right? And she immediately messaged me back. She's like, within five minutes, she's like, yes, this is my phone number. Call me right now. And I'm like, great.

So I called her. I said, this is a message. It was like, I think it took under 30 seconds. And she's like, oh, okay. Oh, okay, great, thanks. Okay. Hung up.

Next time that I saw her, she's like, you don't understand how much I needed to hear that message. But the other irony was, she was very young. She was in a car going to a club with a car full of friends.

So everybody heard the phone call on speakerphone, and there was about five clients that came with her. Like, five of friends that came with her to the next show to get readings for me. So in a way, it worked out.

I'm not complaining, but that that little italian man would not leave me alone.

Michael Herst
00:35:36

He paid. Paid it forward to you. Yeah, that's. That is.

I know that it was probably a little annoying at the time, but that's actually pretty cool because it allowed the, I think the opportunity to understand that there is a veil there that we have the opportunity to connect with. You have the opportunity to connect with, that can get messages through that need to be, that need to be brought forward to now.

And I think we all do. We all have that ability to be able to do that? Or do you think that we all have to come to somebody that has a gift in order to interpret that?

Carolina Guterres
00:36:15

So, yes and no. So I absolutely, absolutely believe that everybody can cultivate some level of their intuition. Intuition and ancestor work. Two different things.

They're brothers, but they're not the exact same thing.

I think that everybody can absolutely cultivate ancestor work so that they are in some way, shape or form connecting and interacting with their dead all the time. Right. And that they protect them and that they can work with them, give them warnings to what level that is.

That I think is dependent on the individual.

I absolutely think that there are people that are born with this gift to work with the public, and then other people are born with this gift just to work for themselves. And you need to figure that out.

Just because you have a little bit of intuition or a little bit of mediumship doesn't mean that you should be out there in the public eye and dealing with this day in and day out. Because if you don't do it right, this work is very draining, right?

And a lot of people now, I find, jump into this and they're not doing it right, and they're paying a price. They're getting sick. They're using their own life force that is being depleted. You should never be using your life force when you do this work.

And so, you know, if you look at First nations cultures around the world or First nations practices, whether it's in North America, Africa, Australia, whatever, this type of work is inculcated in people from the time of birth. And so they have a deep connection to their ancestors and to their protector spirits.

And so they recognize what they're able to do in their own life and when there needs to be the help of someone like me to be called in. So I really subscribe to the premise of building what I call spiritual independence.

And that doesn't mean independence from creator, doesn't mean that you separate from the world, but it means that you're able to foster that internal experience within yourself so that you are able to cultivate this as a tool that you can use on an everyday, you know, in an everyday setting. Right. Because it's not really useful enough, in my opinion, for you to have to call me on.

First of all, I don't want people to call me on a weekly basis. I don't like those readings. Unless something is going on and you need my help, I want to see that frequently.

And I, and it's not that I don't want the work. I love the work. I love working people.

I'm a business person at the end of the day, but not at the cost of creating this unhealthy dependence, because I really believe that mental wellness is something that we need to take into consideration in every aspect of our life. But when you need that help, absolutely, I'm there. But you need to be able to use this.

Like you as a, as a former cop, don't tell me your gut didn't come into play when you were, especially in domestic disturbances, which can be of the most dangerous situations in your field. You know, if your gut was off, you might handle the situation differently. You might take precautions. Right.

So coming to me on a regular basis wouldn't help you in those everyday situations. So it's, it's a, it's a, it's a balance that you need to approach this work just like you need to approach life.

Michael Herst
00:40:01

Right.

Carolina Guterres
00:40:01

I always say to people, you need discernment in every aspect of your life because people seem to remove the discernment when it comes to spirit. And they'll like, agree to do stuff that I'm like, why would you ever agree to that?

That practitioner, you know, people that take, get hoes for a lot of money or just go into agreements and rituals and I'm like, common sense man. That shouldn't have disappeared then. Just because you're talking to spirits doesn't. Spirits can lie. The spirits lie to you all the time, right?

As a medium, I can say, you know, you have checks and balances in place to figure out if they're lying or not.

Michael Herst
00:40:40

You know that I 100% everything you just said, I agree with you with, and gut intuition, I think, is something that I relied on as a cop. It saved my life numerous times in regard to situations that I went into or my guys went into.

So I do believe that we should listen to that inner voice with us. And I also think that we also, personally, I feel that we've got the benefit also of listening. Part of an intuition, I think. Let me start.

My brain is moving faster than my mouth. I think that we have our guides and our angels that are with us as well that we can call upon as well at any time.

And I think that sometimes that intuition has coincided with that I believe that we get a whisper in our ear and we don't go around the corner, and then you find out that, you know, car accident happened around the corner or something happened to where you kind of go, wow, Sean Shorter. I didn't go that way. Don't know why I didn't do it or stop and say, oh, I forgot about something.

Before you go, take another step, and then you realize there's a big hole in the ground that you wouldn't have seen earlier kind of a thing. I mean, those are very blatant examples, but in reality, we have the opportunity to listen to our guides and our spirits as well. Right.

Earlier you mentioned what you call our spirit tribe. Did you call them a spirit tribe?

Carolina Guterres
00:42:08

Oh, the court.

Michael Herst
00:42:09

Yeah, you're the spirit that almost a tribe.

So do we have the opportunity that we can connect with that court ourselves, or do we need an intermediary to be able to connect with that court to help us guide ourselves or to make big decisions? Let's say we don't know which way we're going to do it. Should I.

Should I go for this big job or should I try to go for this house or should I move from here to another state or, you know, make big decisions within our lives? You know, how do we. How do we take that step to connect with our. Our court, our spirit court, if you can help us a little bit.

Carolina Guterres
00:42:50

So you connect with your court every single day. Every single day you connect with your court. You're just not aware of it.

So I always give, my favorite example of this is that is the following scenario. Imagine you are the parent of a small child, maybe about six or seven.

So you're walking through a farmer's market or some type of marketplace, and the child is running and being like, I like this.

And the parent is trying to give the child freedom, but when they grab onto those scissors or they grab onto that raw piece of fish or whatever, the parent steps in and says, no, sweetie, we don't need that. We leave that alone.

You know, you're in the middle of doing the action when the help steps in, okay, versus a leader of an organization, a nation, a city, whatever, who wakes up in the morning and meets with their court of advisors. The court of advisors says, okay, Carolina, today we have this scenario coming up, so you should be prepared for this. And we have.

And so one is a very passive experience, which is the kid just running around crazy and the parents stepping in when it needs to step in. And the other one is a more engaging and purposeful experience of us saying, coming to our group of trusted advisors and saying, help me.

What do I need to know? Right. One is active, one is passive, one is offensive when it's defensive. Right. And so we can work with our spirits either way.

I choose to work with mine offensively versus defensively. I want to know. I want to be prepared. I'm an a type. I like to have my checklist.

I, you know, and spirit doesn't always give me that opportunity, but it does in this instance, and it gives everyone the opportunity. It's just a matter of how you foster it and how you develop it.

The other thing to keep in mind with that, too, is that what, the way you interact with them is not going to make logical sense. So you got to throw logic out the window.

This is an exercise in trust, and this is an exercise in faith, because your spirits and I don't care who you are, at some point they're going to say, do this, when the crowd is doing this, and you're going to have to sit there and you're going to have to figure out, do I do what my trusted advisors have advised me to do? Who has worked in the past, even though it doesn't make sense. Everybody's telling me that I'm crazy, I'm losing out on this great opportunity.

Or do you follow the herd? Are you willing to be the cheese that stands alone? Or do you follow the herd? Right.

Because inevitably, as you progress on this journey, more and more, you are the cheese that stands alone. And so you got to be comfortable with that. Right. And there are people who just are never comfortable with that. Right.

You literally are stepping out of what some might call the Matrix when you're doing that. Right. But it's. It yields such high rewards. Right.

Michael Herst
00:46:11

Yes. I think that we all. I think that, I mean, I understand from everything that you just said, I think that we have the opportunity to make.

When it comes to choice and free will as well, we have a choice in life. We can either choose to listen to our inner gut, we can choose not to, we can choose to listen to our spirit guides, or we can choose not to.

In regard to that and consequences, there's consequences for everything, whether it be positive or negative. You can have positive consequences, you can have negative consequences.

We just have to determine for ourselves the best way to listen to our inner guide and our inner self. And, as you say, kind of hear ourselves from the inside out. I think innately we.

Carolina Guterres
00:46:59

So I forgot to mention. So I apologize. So one of the things that I forgot to mention is I have a reading.

My spirit court reading is specifically developed to give you the tools of how you connect on an individual basis with those guides. So they've always been there. So people think that they're going to be introduced to this, like, brand new feeling. No, that's not.

People like, it kind of seems familiar, like. Yeah, because that they're there with you always. Right. But how do you call upon them individually?

What are the individual guides and their purposes in your life? Right. So, for example, I always give this example. When someone becomes a parent, they usually get a new guide because it's such a shift in your life.

Right. If you take on a new profession, you probably are going to get a new guide for that, because each guide helps you in individual ways.

And so the reading of goes delves into, okay, let's say you have a Tom on your team. Tom is the one that helped you with policing, let's say. Right. Tom was the one that kept you really sharp. And.

And I'm not reading you right now, Michael. Or maybe I am. Who knows? My examples sometimes end up being that way. Right.

And so, you know, you're like, okay, Tom, where I'm putting my uniform on, we're going to work today. What, you know, how do we work together? Right. What is the representation of Tom? Does Tom like a certain color? Does Tom like a certain food? Right.

You then might have Sally that steps in, and Sally's the dad.

Sally's the one that lets the police, Tom, step into the background so that you're not interrogating your kids and you're able to kind of get on the ground and play with them and have that really fatherly energy that is so different from the energy that you might carry in your everyday life. Right.

And so that that reading gives us the opportunity of seeing who are the main ones at play and how to speak better their language so you can develop this system of communication on your own.

Michael Herst
00:49:04

Very cool. Yeah, very cool. Gives us what an opportunity, actually.

What an opportunity for us to be able to have a better and closer understanding of those that are helping us along our path and our journey. This life. Sometimes it's complicated. You know, sometimes it's easy. Sometimes it's complicated. Sometimes there's opticals.

There's always something in there. But the opportunity for us to be able to kind of open up to some guidance, I think is a valuable asset. A valuable asset.

Carolina Guterres
00:49:35

Well, I think also it's a way of approaching life when you have backup.

Michael Herst
00:49:44

Yeah.

Carolina Guterres
00:49:44

It's always easier with backup.

Michael Herst
00:49:46

We always need backup with your either cop, the cop. We always have call for backup. But in life itself, we always need backup.

You know, you always need somebody there and whether, no matter what you're going through. And people have heard me on this podcast myself, I always say that I had to have backup with my journey in learning to walk again.

I had people push me from behind and had people pull me from the front and walk beside me and hold my hand. And, you know, it is a journey in life in totality that we have to recognize who in the, what might be around us in order to help us move forward.

Whether or not we need somebody to push from behind or you can't see my italian hands pushing from behind or pulling us up from the front or walking beside us and holding our hand and supporting us or leading the way. So yes, I agree with that. I talk to my angels and guides every day, actually, we do it before we go to bed and I get up in the morning and do it too.

And I think that it's an important aspect, and we'll talk about how somebody can, can reach out to you in regard to that here in a few minutes. But it is, yeah, for sure.

I think it's a wonderful opportunity for people to be able to connect to that because once you understand it, once you really believe in it and can believe in the prospect and how it works, it's a very satisfying aspect of life when you can rest assured that, you know, that you do have guides around you and angels around you and it. Excuse me, it's just a good thing. We'll talk about it again in a moment here, but I wanted to touch back on something, if you don't mind.

I had like three questions as we were talking, really came to me that I really wanted to explore a little bit.

I know we, we're almost shut, almost off here, but the first one was in regard to when you talk to spirit, you mentioned the person about the grandfather talking them. So how far back can you go to talk to somebody? Can you talk to people in regard to. This is just an interesting aspect, I think.

Can you go back to great great grandfather, great great grandfather, that kind of a thing, or is it limited in how far back you can go?

Carolina Guterres
00:52:04

Every medium is different. Right. But for me, there's no limit.

So there, you know, I read a lot of, in the tradition that I practice and kind of the belief system that I hold, ancestral effects, ancestral trauma, ancestral events play a huge role. Right. So, for example, you know, if you came from a culture or a country. And we all did, really, if you think about it.

But like your immigrant parents, right. You mentioned the italian hands pushing you. Right? So your immigrant parents from Italy, right.

That probably since time immemorial, their family has lived in a particular region, right. Even prior to Christianity. Okay.

It is very common for people to have created something known as land packs because land packs because nature, and we see it to this day, but some people like to fool themselves. We still live and die by nature, whether we want to admit that or not. Right. Much more obvious back then, without the technology that we have today.

And so a bad season meant somebody's kids might die because they weren't eating properly or flooding or whatever, right?

So something that was very popular and that we did, I see in ancestral readings all the time are land packs that some disinflamma member made to always tend to the spirit of that land, and then you have family move away, immigration happens or they forget. Right. Because it takes very few generations for you to forget something and somebody doesn't pass it on to one person. And all of a sudden, what?

What do you mean? I had no idea. Right. But it doesn't mean that that land pack, if that ancestor committed the entire line forever, my family will take care of you.

Right. You see a lot of this to devotees of the black Madonna in southern Italy. Right. And somebody doesn't keep that pack.

Well, that just doesn't, just because he doesn't know about it doesn't mean that you still don't owe that bill, right. That bill still comes.

And so the lack of that starts to develop problems in people's lives, and then their kids have it, and then they, and they're like, what's going on? Why can't I fix this? Right? And so as a reader, when I go in, I'm like, oh, you have this?

And this is dating back to a grandfather ten generations back. You don't even know his name. Right. But this is what was committed. So what do we got to do about it, right?

Chances are you're not going to move back to your family estate or the family thatch of land that's now this size, right. So it's really kind of figuring out how do we. And there's different ways to go about it.

But that is one example where, as a reader, it's not limited as to how far back there are people that show up in mediumship readings all the time that the family's like, I have no idea who this is, but, like, the culture matches, the city matches, the name matches. But they're right because it could be really far back and they might become in a say, yo, sorry, I messed up.

And that's why everybody gets beat red when they scream and can't stop screaming for 2 hours when they get angry because there's a trauma that I carried that you guys have all inherited it and some of you might be in therapy now to deal with it, but you're finding that it's like, you know, fighting the ocean like thing.

Michael Herst
00:56:02

Thank you very much. Great, great, great. You know, thank you very much. Have a nice day. Can you take it away now? Yeah, that's crazy.

Carolina Guterres
00:56:12

Yeah, pretty much, right. But that also goes for positive things too. So it's not always trauma and negative stuff.

Like I remember I read this one woman, I was like, you had to have some type of feng shui practitioner in your line. You had to, because I had never seen the amount of luck that poured into this line.

It was, it was beautiful to see because usually I only see really bad stuff, right? But I was like, oh my God, this is so amazing. You had to have somebody, and she was chinese, right?

And she goes, yeah, that would have been my great great grandfather where we still mention his name. And I was like, well, you, you teach your children that because you have to be very grateful for some of these little pots of gold that I'm seeing.

Yeah, yeah. So it's not always bad if I could put a spin of hope on it.

Michael Herst
00:57:01

Well, you know, it's nice to have a spin of hope on it because, you know, too many times we have even in this podcast, and you see too many times where the people come on and a lot of people came on here to get closure.

A lot of people come on here through traumatic incidents, especially early in this podcast, you know, I had people that triumphed over those tragedies, but still, it was still there, so apparent, and they still were affected by it. As a cop, I saw that in my own personal life, I saw that too many, too many times.

So anytime we can grasp on something that's positive and shiny, it's always kind of a nice thing to be able to say, hey, there is hope, and then we can always find something positive. So interesting. We are. Boy, time just slipped away here quicker than I expected. You're going to have to come back, you know that?

You're going to have to come back on. We should talk.

Carolina Guterres
00:57:53

I'd love to come back and talk some more.

Michael Herst
00:57:56

In the meantime, let's everybody out how they, everything that we just talked about, how be able to be able to ready to hear your voice within spiritual salons, spiritual readings, past life regressions and all that, where they can connect spiritually with you, how can they get ahold of you? Where can they find you and what can you do for them?

Carolina Guterres
00:58:19

Yeah. So my recommendation is go take a look at my site. Cudandera. Dot ca c u r a n d e r a. Michael has very graciously put that throughout the video.

Take a look at that. Give it a read.

I offer a free ten minute consultation, not because I'm going to read you or anything's going to be done of that kind, but it's to kind of get a compass as to what might be, what might fit for you best and if it's something that we both kind of resonate with. Because I'm not of the mindset that I meant to work with everyone, not because I don't want to work with you, but there might be a.

The energies might match, or if I remind you of that annoying teacher that you had in the fifth grade, then you know, there's plenty of other people that can help you, right? So I really encourage that to see if it's a good fit before people pay any money. And, you know, the other thing too is I also offer monthly.

It's not on the list here, but it's called the fireside chat and it's free to join. You just log in. It's over. Zoom. It's the second Monday of the month, 08:00 p.m. eastern to 09:00 p.m. and it's just conversations.

It's open conversations depending on the topic of. Of the month. And it's other seekers that join, just like yourself.

And we just have the opportunity to have a safe space to just chat about different experiences and, you know, things like, things like the conversation that we spent the last hour sharing. So there's opportunities for you to get a taste before committing.

And if I can't help you, I'm very honest about that and I will let you, point blanken, say, that's just not something that I can help you with.

Michael Herst
01:00:10

So I'll make sure all this the.

Carolina Guterres
01:00:13

Only thing that I have in this work. Yeah, yeah. Thank you, Michael.

But the only thing, just my last statement in this is the only thing that I have in this work is my integrity and my honesty and the reputation that comes with that. And so you can take a look at some of my Google reviews. All of them are mostly five stars.

A couple of four stars there, but it's more to do with timing than anything else with that. But yeah, feel it out. If it's something that resonates. Let's chat, see if it works.

Michael Herst
01:00:44

I make sure that all of that's in the show notes for everybody so you can. Easy way to connect with you and just follow the link. So make sure that that's there as well. And you're also on Instagram. Can I connect with you?

Carolina Guterres
01:00:54

There I am. Same thing. Curandera. Curanter. And I'll make sure that, well, obviously.

Michael Herst
01:01:04

It'S here on the screen, but I'll make sure that that's in your, in the webpage for everybody to be able to connect with you as well. This has been absolutely wonderful conversation. I would say again, please, I would love to have you back.

I think there's so much more we could talk about and share. The time slipped away too quick. I think the earth is spinning faster. I think that's what it's doing.

Carolina Guterres
01:01:30

When good conversation happens, it feels like that. Right?

Michael Herst
01:01:34

But I'll make sure it's there. This is one more thing before you go. So before we go, do you have any words of wisdom you can share?

Carolina Guterres
01:01:42

Any words of wisdom? Yeah. Dare to lead with your intuition. Your life will be better because of it.

Michael Herst
01:01:50

I agree with that. Outstanding, brilliant words of wisdom. I think everybody should trust their intuition. Once you do it and you understand it works, it's wonderful.

Well, again, Carolina, thank you very much. I really appreciate your time. I look forward to another conversation with you. For everyone else out there, please, one more thing before you all go.

Have a great day. Have a great week and thanks for being here. Thanks for listening to this episode of.

Carolina Guterres
01:02:18

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