Oct. 27, 2024

Haunted Tales from the Tea Table: A Halloween Special

Ever wondered what lurks in the shadows or what goes bump in the night? This Halloween 2024 special edition of "Over the TeaCup Sunday" with Michael and Diane takes you on a spine-tingling journey through their scariest and earliest paranormal experiences. From eerie encounters that haunted their childhood to chilling tales that send shivers down their spines, the couple shares stories that will make you question the unknown. As they reminisce about ghostly happenings and the supernatural, grab your favorite tea and settle in for an exploration of the mysteries that lie beyond the veil. Don’t miss this unforgettable episode packed with tales that will keep you on the edge of your seat!

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Takeaways:

  • Michael and Diane share their personal paranormal experiences that have haunted them for years, providing listeners with chilling tales of the unexplained.
  • The couple discusses their plans to enhance their Halloween decorations next year to create a spooky atmosphere for their neighborhood.
  • Listeners are encouraged to be cautious while trick-or-treating, emphasizing the importance of checking candy for safety.
  • Michael recounts a terrifying encounter with a demon as a child, emphasizing the lasting impact of such experiences.
  • Diane shares a touching story about a song that reminded her of her late stepfather, adding a sentimental touch to the spooky theme.
  • The episode highlights the importance of being open to one’s supernatural experiences, as many remain reluctant to share their encounters.
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Chapters

00:00 - None

00:00 - Intro to the Paranormal

00:02 - Halloween 2024 Special Introduction

01:08 - Spooky Decor and Halloween Plans

02:51 - Memories from Woodland Park

03:36 - The Haunted House Next Door

07:26 - Experiences with Spirits

08:11 - The Victorian Lady Encounter

19:16 - Michael's First Encounter with a Demon

19:28 - Diane's Connection with Her Great Grandmother

44:06 - Signs from Loved Ones

54:37 - Final Thoughts and Halloween Safety Tips

54:42 - Outro and Thanks for Listening

Transcript

Michael

Hey, one more thing before you go.


Michael

Ever wonder what lurks in the shadows or what goes bump in the night?


Michael

Join us for a special Halloween 2024 edition of over the Teacup Sunday with Michael and Diane where we delve into our scariest and earliest experiences with the paranormal and the supernatural.


Michael

From spine chilling encounters to eerie tales that have haunted us throughout the years.


Michael

We're going to share some stories that will make you question the unknown and perhaps even send shivers down your spine.


Michael

So grab your favorite tea or whatever you're drinking, settle in and let's explore the mysteries that lie beyond the veil.


Michael

This is an episode you won't want to miss.


Michael

Welcome to one more thing before you go.


Michael

I'm your host, Michael Hurst and I'm here with my lovely wife and co host Diane.


Michael

Hey, Diane.


Diane

Hello, Michael.


Michael

You know it's almost Halloween.


Diane

I know.


Diane

Getting excited.


Michael

Pretty close.


Michael

Yep, it's just around the corner.


Michael

And we even got some really cool kind of extra Halloween decorations this year.


Diane

Yes, we did.


Diane

Just a few.


Michael

Just a few.


Michael

I wish we could get a few more.


Michael

But that'll come down next year.


Michael

Maybe next year will be one of those houses that the neighbors go, don't go anywhere near that house.


Michael

Just threw up.


Michael

Halloween.


Diane

No, we already have one of those in the neighborhood that looks like Halloween threw up.


Diane

We don't need another one.


Michael

Well, here would be the difference.


Michael

The difference would be that house and I'm not naming anybody, so it's okay.


Michael

No, I'm not saying anything, but that house is mostly just a bunch of blow up stuff and just kind of a bunch of stuff crammed into a little thing.


Michael

See, next year, next year we're going to do like some spooky movies that are going to be showing on the garage and through the windows and you're going to just be ghouls and ghosts and goblins and lights, lights and you know, that kind of thing.


Michael

So that.


Michael

Yeah, it's going to be.


Diane

And I think we should dress up next year too.


Diane

We don't usually dress up.


Diane

We got to dress up next year.


Michael

We should do that.


Michael

Yes, we should do that.


Michael

Our goal is an old man.


Michael

What are you going on?


Diane

An old woman.


Michael

No, I want to spice it.


Diane

I want to be a witch.


Diane

I was looking for a witch's costumes.


Diane

I want to be a witch.


Michael

Well, we're going to do that and then I'm going to get that thing I've been wanting.


Michael

The 12 foot blow up ghoulie ghost that wears.


Diane

You have been talking about this almost Daily.


Michael

Yes.


Diane

That you want this thing.


Michael

Yes, yes, yes, yes.


Diane

Yeah.


Michael

So, yeah, it's going to be fun.


Michael

We're going to.


Michael

Yeah, we're going to light up the neighborhood.


Michael

I think everybody's going to dare.


Michael

Do you remember, remember when we were still living in Woodland Park?


Diane

Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about because I got hurt.


Michael

There was a house down the road.


Michael

Now, we lived up in the mountains about 8, 500ft behind pikes Peak.


Michael

Our front yard basically was the backside of Pikes Peak.


Michael

And yes, we're talking about that Pikes Peak.


Michael

And it was beautiful.


Michael

Now, Halloween, typically every year, pretty much every year the girls were growing up, we typically had a blizzard on Halloween or snow.


Diane

It was always cold.


Michael

So it was a matter of could you get out before it hit or, you know, and get all your stuff done and get the kids back in or did, you know, you just try to go to a party or what?


Michael

But we.


Michael

It was nice because we had a lot of kids that roamed the neighborhood.


Michael

And there was one house, one house you could.


Michael

And look, those are lots.


Michael

You have a regular lot, just a regular lot, like an 8,000 square foot lot like we have here.


Michael

And then we had a third acre lot next to us that divided us between the other neighbors.


Michael

So there was a lot of these up in our neighborhood up there.


Michael

So when I say this, you know, you understand that you could hear the screams coming from that house and they were theoretically probably a block away.


Diane

Yeah, I'd say about a block.


Diane

You could see the house from our front porch.


Michael

Yeah.


Michael

And you could see it because of the fact that we lived the way we all lived up there, where you had acreage between the houses.


Michael

So you can still see that.


Michael

But it was.


Michael

You always lit it up good.


Michael

And tell them what happened.


Michael

Well, first of all, it was nice because you gotta understand the challenge of doing this at 8,500ft in the snow is that you get your kids in the best costume you can get them in, and you get them who they want to be, and then you bundle them up for the winter and then you have to run them up to the house.


Michael

Everybody gets driven around mostly, and then you run them up to the house and then you unzip their jacket and show everybody their costumes.


Diane

Costumes.


Michael

Hey, everyone.


Michael

See your costumes.


Michael

And then get a candy and you give your candy.


Michael

Then they zip them back up again and then you run back to the car.


Diane

Yeah.


Diane

So, yeah, it's much different here in Arizona.


Diane

We were.


Diane

We were.


Diane

It was a different.


Diane

Different way to do Halloween.


Diane

Different world for sure.


Michael

So that one house you drew up to it and.


Diane

One house.


Michael

Yeah, that one house.


Diane

So, well, they, they did have like all the spooky stuff playing and the sounds and the screams and everything, but.


Michael

It was very creative.


Michael

Very, very creative.


Diane

It was creative.


Diane

But on the front porch they had a.


Diane

Every year they had like this big life size scarecrow or so I think it felt like it was.


Michael

Well, also that for a while.


Michael

He did it himself for a while.


Diane

No, no, no.


Diane

This is what, this is what happened every year.


Diane

It was that life size scarecrow sitting in the chair.


Diane

So every year that's what I was expecting.


Diane

And then the one year that I go up to with the kids, it was him and I didn't expect it.


Diane

And he scared the crap out of me and I tripped and I twisted my ankle.


Diane

I literally got hurt.


Michael

I'm not laughing at the twisting your ankle, but.


Diane

I know.


Michael

But yeah, you could hear kids screaming and you could hear adults screaming.


Diane

Yeah, because he.


Diane

Because it usually was.


Diane

I mean, it was scary enough with just the life size one, but it probably.


Diane

After a few years, everybody got used to it.


Diane

He's like, well, this isn't working anymore.


Diane

I'm going to dress up like that dummy.


Diane

And yeah, it worked.


Michael

And it worked.


Diane

It worked big time.


Diane

It was very scary.


Michael

It's like, happy Halloween.


Michael

Happy Halloween.


Diane

One Halloween.


Diane

Happy Halloweeny.


Diane

And then the one time that it was so there was.


Diane

I don't even know why I even had the kids out.


Diane

I know you were working, but I went ahead and drove the kids around in a blizzard and we were in our own neighborhood and literally got lost.


Diane

I had no idea where I was.


Diane

Know where the road was.


Diane

It was crazy.


Diane

And I.


Diane

I think after that we just.


Diane

We really didn't know much, you know.


Michael

Yeah, it was kind of one of those.


Michael

Yeah.


Michael

But, you know, I think a lot of that also started doing.


Michael

Eventually we also started going to parties where all the kids were because the winters were getting kind of crappy.


Michael

And that's one reason we moved to Arizona.


Michael

But still a beautiful place.


Michael

Still miss it, you know?


Michael

Still.


Michael

But that house, that house we lived in there.


Michael

There were spirits around it.


Michael

There were spirits.


Diane

It was haunted.


Diane

Cannot convince me it was not haunted.


Diane

And we lived there 15 years.


Michael

We did live there 15 years.


Michael

Co jointly with the entities we'll call them.


Diane

Yes, I did.


Michael

Kids saw them all the time.


Michael

And Nikki used to wake up with night terrors because of it and used to see kids playing.


Michael

She said those kids were playing and Dancing right there and, you know, won't leave me alone type stuff.


Michael

And Caitlin, I think Caitlin saw a.


Michael

I think both kids and I don't know if you did or not.


Michael

Didn't they see a Victorian?


Diane

Well, I had.


Diane

Yeah, I had.


Diane

So I didn't see her.


Diane

But I'll tell the story about what happened.


Diane

Or did we want to start chronologically of like our first experiences and then work up or not?


Michael

Well, let's go and tell this one and then we'll go back.


Diane

Okay.


Diane

Okay.


Diane

So, yeah, so the girls would see this.


Diane

They always described her as Victorian looking woman, but she was nice, you know, and she.


Diane

I don't remember them ever.


Diane

Well, no, Katie said she didn't.


Diane

Katie remembers not seeing her but hearing her and then Nikki doesn't really remember any of it.


Diane

But I.


Diane

It's a core memory for me.


Diane

I remember distinctly because we had gone to dinner.


Diane

The girls were old enough to stay by themselves.


Diane

They were like, I think 12 and 10 or something.


Diane

And we just real quick went to dinner, the two of us, and we came home and they were just beyond petrified.


Diane

And just as soon as we walked in the door, they like, oh my God.


Diane

Oh my God.


Diane

This is what happened.


Diane

This is what we saw.


Diane

So it's weird that they don't really remember as well as I do, but they described her as like a Victorian looking woman and kind of.


Diane

My mother has these pictures.


Diane

She's had them for years.


Diane

I think she still has them of just a lady dressed up kind of in that era with a little girl and that they said, you know, that picture grandma has, that was her.


Diane

It looked just like her.


Michael

Maybe followed them home maybe.


Diane

And so, you know, they were, they were just.


Diane

They were scared, but they were like, well, but she didn't.


Diane

It was just a scary thing to experience because it was, you know, spirit.


Diane

But they were like, well, that she was okay.


Diane

Like, we're not scared of her.


Diane

It was just a weird.


Michael

The experience itself and just to preface it just everybody understands that we lived in a.


Michael

Willow park was a small town at that time and you know, neighbors watched the neighbors and.


Michael

And so forth.


Michael

So, you know, and the kids were old.


Michael

Caitlin was old enough to.


Michael

To babysit her sister.


Diane

And yeah, we.


Diane

We didn't go very far either for dinner.


Diane

It wasn't like we were gone that way.


Michael

Yeah, very small town and so forth.


Michael

So we weren't putting our kids in danger or leaving them.


Diane

No, no.


Michael

And everybody.


Michael

But then everybody in town knew I was a cop anyway.


Michael

And you know, there was an assistant district attorney living behind us.


Michael

And.


Diane

So when this happened, you know, they said, well, she was nice.


Diane

And she, you know, seemed to like she was trying to take care of us or something.


Diane

That's how they felt.


Diane

So I think it was only a few weeks, maybe a month after this happened.


Diane

I was, of course, running late for work, because that was always the thing.


Diane

And I was looking for a pair of socks.


Diane

I needed my socks.


Diane

I need to get my shoes on.


Diane

You remember this?


Michael

Yes, I do remember this.


Diane

Oh, my God.


Diane

I'm getting.


Diane

I'm, like, just thinking about.


Diane

Okay, so our laundry room was in the downstairs part, the basement part.


Diane

And I run down there.


Diane

I go into the dryer, which.


Diane

The dryer was kind of over here.


Diane

The washing machine was over here.


Diane

They weren't.


Diane

They weren't side by side.


Diane

It was a weird.


Diane

It was an old house.


Diane

It was just a weird setup.


Diane

So the dryer's on the other side and the washers away from it.


Diane

And I knew that I just washed them, so I knew they were there.


Diane

So I go in the dryer, and I'm looking for these socks.


Diane

I'm looking for these socks.


Diane

I'm looking.


Diane

I'm looking for.


Diane

I'm digging out everything for these socks.


Diane

They are not there.


Diane

And I'm like, I just put them in last night.


Diane

I know they're here.


Diane

I'm late for work.


Diane

So I slam the dryer, and I turn around and look at the washing machine.


Diane

And on top of the washing machine are the socks side by side, perfectly ironed, flat.


Michael

Like, I want to know how it goes to iron socks.


Diane

I don't know, because obviously they don't even come out of the dryer looking ironed.


Diane

They looked flat, ironed, perfect.


Diane

And side by side, like, even the feet were facing the right directions on top of the washing machine.


Michael

And I'll tell you, we had two cats.


Michael

And these cats never were really freaked out in the house.


Michael

They, you know, usually cats are very observant when it comes to that.


Michael

You know, they really didn't freak out around the house.


Michael

Actually, we had three, when you count Max.


Michael

Max was there first, and then we had Sassy Dakota after Max passed away.


Michael

And, you know, there really wasn't a whole lot of issue, but, you know, history is that, you know, this house, Woodland park, is at the top of Ute Pass.


Michael

Ute Pass was an area where Native Americans travel from, like, Manitou Springs and up from Garden of the Gods and from the Cave of the Winds and from the cliff dwellings and everything, and had that's where they traveled up to Woodland Park.


Michael

So, you know, there's a lot of history there.


Michael

There's a lot of.


Diane

To the land.


Michael

To the land.


Michael

There's history to the land, and there's history to the land for settlers as well.


Michael

Some, you know, Western settlers.


Michael

So.


Michael

Well, you know.


Diane

Yeah, I.


Diane

And I didn't.


Diane

I was just like, oh, okay.


Diane

Thank you.


Diane

I appreciate your help.


Diane

I grabbed the socks and I ran back upstairs.


Diane

And I'm like, you're not gonna believe what happened.


Diane

I don't have time to tell you, but this is crazy.


Diane

So after that, I just kind of always just talked to her, you know, and said, hey, you know, thanks for the.


Diane

Thanks for the assistance and thanks for watching over the girls.


Diane

And, you know, and then I think it was after that that Katie moved her room downstairs like you had moved your office, and she moved her room in there.


Diane

And she did not sleep well downstairs at all.


Diane

She did not sleep.


Diane

She didn't like it.


Diane

And I know the first.


Diane

The first night we spent there, actually, she was just a baby and you and I.


Diane

And she spent the night on the living room floor.


Diane

I mean, we didn't have any furniture or anything.


Diane

I felt it.


Diane

I felt many things going on.


Diane

Like it was.


Michael

That was an empty house.


Michael

And the.


Michael

We had skylights, huge 4 by 8 skylights across the whole roof so you could look up and see the stars.


Michael

You know, that's.


Michael

I missed looking up and seeing all those stories.


Michael

You can.


Michael

It was like at the top of the.


Michael

It's like being in an observatory.


Michael

You could see so many of them.


Michael

But, you know, and realistically, there was the.


Michael

You know, we felt over the years that there was some stuff that was really negative that was showing up there.


Michael

And in fact, so much so that we had a friend of mine, I worked a lot with some individuals, not just work, but I had known many Native Americans down in the Mountaineer Springs area and the Cave of the Winds and cliff dwelling area and Colorado Springs, west side Colorado Springs and so forth.


Michael

And a friend of mine, very good friend of mine, Robert Taltree, he's one of the very few recognized medicine men for the tribe and for the whole tribe in the whole western region.


Michael

And he and his wife came up and they ended up cleaning, clearing the land in our house for us with a Native American ceremony because, I mean, Nikki was waking up with night terrors.


Michael

And, you know, although the Victorian lady seemed to be okay, but, you know, we started.


Diane

The rest of them didn't seem to be negative.


Michael

Yeah, negative stuff.


Michael

That was coming through, some evil type things that were coming through.


Michael

We'd hear growls, we'd hear, you know.


Michael

Yeah, you could see shadows and, you know, you watch some of these ghost shows talk about shadows and moving around.


Michael

We could see the shadows moving around and so forth.


Diane

I don't know how.


Diane

How we stayed there that long, but we did.


Michael

Well, we.


Michael

Again, it helped having, you know, a medicine man come and, you know, do this for us.


Michael

And he.


Michael

They walked the whole property and had a drum and they were smudging.


Diane

We'd been in the house.


Diane

It was.


Diane

I mean, they came later, like when we were probably, what year 13.


Diane

Like that, you think?


Diane

Yeah, it didn't feel like that to me.


Diane

Well, if we live there much longer with all this going on, but.


Michael

Well, I mean, it had to be.


Michael

It was.


Michael

It was before I retired.


Michael

So I retired in 99.


Diane

Well, we.


Diane

We lived there 15 years and we moved out in 2004 shortly after you.


Diane

Oh, well, I guess not.


Diane

You had been retired 99.


Diane

So.


Michael

So, you know, it.


Michael

It was five or six years before we moved out because I was just.


Michael

I've been diagnosed with rheumatoid, you know, and she was going to help me with my hand.


Michael

She's always looking my hand and she's gonna always.


Diane

That's right.


Diane

That's right.


Michael

And that kind of a thing.


Michael

So.


Michael

But yeah, I want to talk about the first time you've had an experience, but I could pause.


Michael

So, you know, we've known each.


Michael

We've known each other for a little more than 35 years.


Michael

We've been married for 35 years.


Michael

So, you know, obviously we've had experiences of our own together as a family, as a couple, as a family, which we'll talk a little bit more about.


Michael

But that's one of the reasons why on here, on.


Michael

One more thing before you go.


Michael

I bring on people who have experiences like that, as well as people who.


Michael

Mediums and psychics and supernatural individuals and experts within this industry that I feel can educate, inspire, motivate people with regard to the supernatural and the paranormal.


Michael

Because I believe that there is a veil here and that that veil gets thinner and it's getting thinner and thinner anyway, but I think during Halloween, it gets a little bit more thinner so that there's more activity goes.


Michael

And as a cop, Halloween used to be, you know, the times that I.


Michael

That I.


Michael

I was lucky enough to work, stay home, but there were also times that unfortunately I had to work quite a bit.


Michael

And through both the county and through, you know, the police department.


Michael

So you would see a spike in this type of thing and calls for this and you know, people sneaking in the cemetery and trying to do stuff.


Michael

And you know, in our areas we had everything from there.


Michael

So Satanist cult down in the cemetery right now, sacrificing a baby and you know, and all kinds of junk like that.


Michael

But never found that, by the way.


Diane

Just good.


Diane

I'm glad to know that.


Michael

But you know, you would see an uptick in things and you would also, you know, it was just a feeling.


Michael

What was your first ever?


Michael

I mean, I told you and I'll tell you about it in a minute, but what was your first ever kind of supernatural paranormal experience?


Diane

Yeah, the first one I know I can remember, I was about nine, I think, and had been a couple of years.


Diane

Probably a couple years since my great grandmother had passed away.


Diane

And my great grandmother was.


Diane

So my great grandparents built the house they lived in in California.


Diane

And they also built a house on the other part of the lot.


Diane

And they painted it pink.


Diane

I don't know why, but we all called it the pink house.


Diane

And that was actually my first home.


Diane

So I.


Diane

For the first few years of my life, I saw my great grandparents a lot.


Diane

And we were still living in California when she passed away.


Diane

I think we moved the next year to Colorado.


Diane

So we were in Colorado at the time.


Diane

And I was like nine, maybe eight.


Diane

Eight or nine.


Diane

And I remember coming out of my parents bedroom and looking down the hallway and she's just right there.


Diane

Like she's right there.


Michael

And your great grandmother?


Diane

My great grandmother.


Diane

And the best way to describe it, I mean, stop me in my tracks, she looked like a hologram.


Diane

I mean, that was the best way to describe it.


Diane

It was detailed enough that I, I mean it was her.


Diane

It was 100 her.


Diane

And I even said.


Diane

I even said, grandma, is that you?


Diane

And she just, she, she didn't say anything.


Diane

She nodded and smiled and I was like, I can't believe.


Diane

Like I can't believe you're here.


Diane

And I mean, I just, I don't even.


Diane

I think that's all I said.


Diane

Like, I couldn't even get the words out.


Diane

And it didn't scare me.


Diane

It was just like, wow, this is cool, you know, and she just kind of smiled and then just faded.


Michael

She was gone and just gone.


Michael

And that's.


Michael

I mean, how'd that make you feel this time?


Michael

You tell anybody?


Michael

So you told your dad?


Diane

I told my mom.


Diane

Dad.


Diane

And of course they didn't believe me, especially my dad.


Diane

Like, no, you Know, my mom just.


Diane

I don't know if she would believe me or just kind of blew it off, but.


Michael

Well, your mom also grew up very, very religious and from a very, very strict religious family.


Michael

A lot of times they don't believe in that stuff.


Michael

And, you know, I grew up Catholic, in which I've spoken about many, many times on the show, that.


Michael

That the type of environment I grew up in, you weren't supposed to believe in that kind of stuff.


Michael

And that just didn't happen, didn't exist.


Diane

I think back on it, I'm thinking, you know, if they had actually, like, believed me or, you know, kind of encouraged that, I mean, I don't know where I'd be because we'll get into more.


Diane

We'll talk more about the stuff that I've also experienced, but could have been a whole different life for me, you know.


Michael

Well, it is.


Michael

I think that.


Michael

And again, I've talked about this on the show quite a bit as well.


Michael

The fact is that as kids, society and culture, unfortunately, we as children growing up, when we have experiences like that, society and culture has shut them down for the most.


Michael

At least here in America, for the most part, shut them down.


Michael

And most of them, it's like, well, you can't do that.


Michael

You can't see that you don't have an imaginary friend, even though you may be.


Michael

And I've spoken to mediums and psychics that said, well, yeah, it wasn't an imaginary friend.


Michael

It was actually somebody I was talking to.


Michael

And they thought it was my imaginary friend type thing.


Michael

But then they tell you, you can't do that.


Michael

You can't have imaginary friend.


Michael

It shuts them down and shuts it off.


Michael

So there's.


Michael

There are people that have had experiences like this that are afraid to talk about it because they're afraid of the ramifications, especially from their family members that specifically said it doesn't exist.


Michael

You know, when you die, you either.


Michael

It's one of three things, at least in Catholic religion.


Michael

You either go to heaven, you go to hell, you go in purgatory, and, you know, purgatory, you wander the earth.


Michael

Well, here's some shocker news for everybody out there who thinks purgatory, you know, believes in purgatory and wanders the earth.


Michael

Well, that's the shadows you see, that's the people you see.


Michael

That's the ghost you see.


Michael

So even they kind of contradicted their selves, didn't they?


Michael

Just a wee bit, because there it is.


Michael

And, you know, I think that there are Spirits here that have unfinished business.


Michael

I do believe in evil spirits and negative entities.


Michael

And we've talked about fallen angels.


Michael

You know, here we had the one episode we did that I did here with Angel Talker that we were talking about fallen angels and dark angels and that, you know, when you.


Michael

That they're here, they try to influence you, they try to motivate you, they try to, you know, entice you to the dark side, so to speak.


Michael

And I didn't even hear the episode.


Michael

I'll have to reference the episode in the show notes, but there's an extended version of the episode.


Michael

We'd released one episode, the original one, without it, but when I was editing it, you know, I said, hey, could you listen to this, see what you think?


Michael

And left it with you for a minute.


Michael

And I had to go do some necessities.


Michael

And when I came back out, you go, did you hear this?


Michael

Did you hear this?


Michael

Did you hear this?


Michael

Did you see this?


Michael

And I went, no, you got it.


Michael

What are you talking about?


Michael

And you, you played it for me.


Michael

And clearly we were having.


Diane

Clear as a bell.


Michael

Yeah.


Michael

Technical issues and technical problems because she was telling me about the dark angels and everything about the dark angels and what they did and what they meant.


Diane

And, you know, and you kept having, you kept having technical issues, screwing with the episode.


Michael

Exactly.


Michael

All the time.


Diane

Right.


Michael

And in fact, it, it kept freezing and it kept locking up and we had to keep trying to go back to it.


Michael

And it.


Michael

While I was sitting here waiting for her to come back and so forth, there was clearly a deep throated, nasty ass growl that.


Michael

And it was clear as day when heard the raw video.


Michael

It was clear as day and it was like, whoa.


Michael

And I reached back out to her and she's a celebrity psychic medium.


Michael

And again, I'll leave reference in the, in the show notes about how to find that episode.


Michael

But yeah, it was kind of, kind of crazy.


Michael

And you know, to me it's.


Michael

It was like.


Michael

It was theoretically, because my microphone's right in front of me and it's a directional microphone, which means if I go over here and I'm talking, my voice goes away very much.


Michael

When I come back here, you hear much more straight on voice and so forth.


Michael

And they were over my head.


Diane

Yeah.


Michael

So, you know.


Michael

Yeah, just kind of.


Diane

Which then reminded you of what you experienced when you were.


Michael

Reminded me of when I was about 12 years old.


Michael

Yeah.


Michael

You know, I grew up in a very dysfunctional family.


Michael

Of course, I think I mentioned that before, but I also grew up in one that, you know, my father believed in it wholeheartedly.


Michael

My mother shirked Catholic.


Michael

But when I grew up, I was a latchkey kid.


Michael

And, you know, we spent a lot of time, me and my brother, we spent a lot of time.


Diane

You hear him growls, I literally am.


Diane

But I don't know, maybe.


Diane

Maybe it was a car or something outside.


Diane

Literally, there was something that just.


Diane

Okay, go ahead.


Michael

So there was an evening where my brother and I were there by ourselves and I was downstairs.


Michael

I had a room downstairs in our house.


Michael

And in Colorado, when you have a basement, it's a basement.


Michael

You know, you have.


Michael

Usually you have windows that are.


Michael

You can look up through, or they are ground.


Michael

You know, you can see the ground through the window.


Michael

It's ground level type thing.


Michael

So anyway, we're down in the basement.


Michael

And the reason I say that is because they're typically darker, you know, so that, you know, it's not like an upstairs room where you've got a much more lighter ambient light or, or, you know, this kind of thing.


Michael

So they're.


Michael

They're darker or they have to be well lit through your own lighting, whether it be ceiling lighting or whatever the case may be.


Michael

But, you know, I was laying on my bed and I can't remember what was going on.


Michael

But, you know, I ended up feeling a presence in the room with me.


Michael

And in feeling that presence in the room with me, I got up and I turned around and I was right in front of me.


Michael

And I know people are going to never believe this, but right in front of me was a demon.


Michael

And I can describe him to you.


Diane

You've drawn him?


Michael

I've drawn the pictures before.


Michael

Is that vivid to me?


Michael

And it's still, to this day, is vivid.


Michael

I can still close my eyes and see it.


Michael

And had big horns and scaly skin and, you know, glowing eyes and, you know, all the stuff that you hear about in the scary movies, though, that's exactly what was in my face.


Michael

And, you know, the head, gnarly teeth and drooling and backed me up against the wall and, you know, we had a conversation and he was right in my face, about three inches from my face.


Michael

I could smell the sulfur and the nasty smells and everything along with it.


Diane

And so what was the conversation?


Michael

I don't fully recall the whole conversation, but it was.


Michael

He was basically trying to entice me into the.


Michael

An evil side of life and, you know, and kind of a thing.


Michael

And I think that, you know, part of, you know, my father was a bad alcoholic and I Think that that had something to do with that as well.


Michael

I think that by that time though, the.


Michael

They had split up.


Michael

My mother and my father had split up.


Michael

But you know, they.


Michael

We never really, we never really knew why he was drinking as much as he was drinking.


Michael

But I think that it had association to that is what I'm thinking and so forth.


Michael

So, you know, I basically did my best to rebuke it and say that, you know, basically f you and I'm not going to do what you're telling me to do and I'm not going to do what you are trying to do and you know, you need to leave this house and.


Diane

Wow.


Diane

Yeah, that's scary at any age, but at 12 years old, that's.


Michael

Yeah, it was pretty crazy.


Michael

Had me backed up right to the wall.


Michael

And I say the smells, the sights, the sounds, the feeling, the apprehension, the.


Michael

Everything that's associated with it.


Michael

So I've never forgotten it.


Michael

But you know, when I get to conversations like this and I think I've mentioned it, I may have mentioned it a couple times in conversation with some of these psychics and mediums and you know, they absolutely said it was a demon and the demon was there to cause trouble and so forth.


Diane

Did you ever.


Diane

Did you ever experience it again or that was it?


Michael

That was it because I said, I think that they found that I was not, not trying to sound egotistical, but I was not, I was not prone to, you know, it wasn't going to happen.


Michael

Basically.


Diane

You were not a willing participant in that.


Michael

I'm not willing to participate in that and so forth.


Michael

So, you know, it.


Michael

Which, you know, who knows, the way my brother is at the moment, maybe it followed him home and stayed with him, not following him home.


Michael

But you know, I don't know.


Michael

But it was, that was my first experience with that.


Michael

And you know, there, you know, a couple times, a few times after that I've had experiences where I heard, you know, voices and seen shadows and things like that as continuing to grow up and you know, but nothing as intense.


Michael

Not nothing that intense, but I can absolutely say, 100% say how that was just, you know, this huge, horned, you know, nasty sulfur breath, drooling demon was right in my face and.


Diane

And that.


Diane

That was your first experience?


Michael

That was my first experience.


Diane

So, yeah, my comparing first experiences, I think I came out the winner there.


Michael

You got your great grandma, I got my what the hell.


Diane

Wow.


Michael

From hell.


Michael

Yeah, kind of thing.


Michael

But you know, at the same time, it also had taught me in my life that you know, no matter what come on up to or whatever I'm up, I'm faced with is that if I, you know, I beat that.


Diane

You could beat anything.


Michael

I could beat anything.


Michael

It gave me a fortitude and the strength to be able to.


Michael

My faith, you know, allowed me to.


Michael

Because that was faith.


Michael

I had a lot of faith in angels anyway, because it'd been with me in the past and at different points in my lifetime and even as a child, and mostly as a child.


Michael

So is one of those things where you said to have faith with that.


Michael

It still makes me a little nervous, but, you know, it's.


Diane

Oh, yeah.


Diane

But it also, the times you've talked about it, you.


Diane

You start talking about it like, you know, very matter of fact.


Diane

And by the end of it, you're.


Diane

You can tell or I can tell that you're like, okay, don't.


Diane

Don't want to revisit that again.


Diane

Don't want to talk about that.


Michael

It also, you know, that's why when we watch a scary, scary, scary movie and everybody else jumps at it, it really does bother me.


Diane

Right.


Michael

Like watching the nun in the middle of the movie screen and Mickey climbs behind me.


Michael

It's, you know, it's kind of one of those things you kind of have, but that, you know, and I've had experiences, you know, off and on throughout that, where I hear voices, where I feel presences or, you know, that's why I clear the house every night, because I'll feel the presence and I'll feel.


Michael

I'll feel the bed.


Michael

I've told you before, I feel like somebody's sitting down on the bed or pushing on the bed right beside me or trying to sit down and so forth and.


Michael

Or push down by my feet kind of a thing.


Michael

And you're in bed and, you know, it's not you and it's not Charlie, and there's nobody else in the house.


Michael

You're not supposed to be kind of a thing, but you can feel it.


Michael

You can see it.


Michael

You can actually feel the bed.


Diane

I feel the bed shake sometimes.


Michael

Yeah.


Diane

The end of the bed.


Michael

So a lot of times we also have positive energies in here as well.


Michael

So we've had positive people, positive entities that have come in and that we've noticed about.


Michael

So it's not all about the.


Michael

Just the scary ass shit, but we've had positive things go.


Michael

As a cop, you know, there were several places that we responded to that were allegedly haunted that, you know, there was one place in itself, Cliff House, and that had burned down twice, and many, many people were killed in both of those.


Michael

From.


Michael

It was built in the 1800s, and then it burned down.


Michael

It was built again, rebuilt in the 1900s, and then again, it recently was redone, but probably 10 or 12 years ago, they remodeled it and rebuilt it.


Michael

But, you know, I hated going into that place.


Michael

Every time I went to that place, we get a call, you know, and we went in there and found people doing cult stuff and Satanist stuff and that kind of crap.


Michael

But, you know, I hated going into the Cliff House on a call in there because it was like, what the hell am I gonna run into in here?


Michael

Situation.


Michael

And you could feel the presence.


Diane

Yeah.


Diane

And you're open to that, especially with what you experienced.


Diane

You.


Diane

You were already open to it, so you knew that, you know, if it was something bad, you were going to experience it so.


Michael

Well, exactly.


Michael

And, you know, and you could feel the hair on the back of your neck rise up when you know they're behind you and you feel like somebody behind you.


Michael

It's like, I know somebody's back there kind of a thing.


Michael

So, you know, and it's.


Michael

It is.


Michael

Like I said, it's.


Michael

It's better than the negative ones.


Michael

So, you know, when you have the negative ones, it is one of those things that stick with you quite a bit, actually.


Diane

Yep.


Michael

You know, kind of.


Michael

And even.


Michael

And even in this house, I mean, there's been times that we kind of go.


Michael

There was a shadow.


Michael

We saw a shadow walk by, or we felt something walk by, or Charlie.


Diane

Charlie will just suddenly stare, stare.


Diane

And you can't get him to stop.


Diane

Like, you cannot.


Diane

He.


Diane

He's not.


Diane

He won't listen to us at all.


Michael

Something else or somebody else kind of a thing.


Michael

And, you know, he does that quite a bit as well, which is kind of like crap.


Diane

Well, and then even.


Diane

I mean, as stupid as the automatic trash can that we have, you know, I know it's down.


Diane

It's shut when we go to bed, and then I'll come out in the morning, and it's wide open.


Michael

And it's wide open.


Diane

And the only thing that opens it is motion.


Diane

So.


Michael

Yeah.


Diane

You know, and then we've also, you know, we have that camera that's set up in the living room, and you used to have the app.


Diane

I don't know if we still do that.


Michael

I do.


Diane

Okay.


Diane

So we.


Diane

There's been times if we start hearing things, we'll open up the app.


Diane

We're in bed.


Diane

We'll open up the app and see that it's like just orbs, orbs everywhere in the camera.


Michael

So anybody that knows, for those of you that don't know what an orb is, okay, if you watch one of these ghost adventure shows or you watch any one of the ghost hunting shows, or listen to the people that I've interviewed on this show, and orb is a spirit that's a, you'll, you'll see them, the energy move in a round sphere and it doesn't move like dust and it doesn't move like a bug.


Michael

It doesn't move.


Michael

I mean, it moves very methodically and you can see it very clearly and distinctly as a round orb.


Michael

And yeah, we've, we have had.


Michael

We can watch them.


Michael

We just literally watch them.


Michael

And you'll see some of them that will move around and spin back around, like go up and then turn around and come back down again.


Michael

And you know, the type of video we've, we've got, you know, the 4K video, you can tell it's not a bug and it's definitely not dust.


Michael

So, you know, that happens.


Michael

And then we've got, you know, we've got this little program from a guy that Huff paranormal.


Michael

Those individuals that are on YouTube right now, which you can see, they kind of talk to the other side.


Michael

They created, this guy created a, an app that literally allows you to.


Michael

Because they talk on a different frequency and they can talk to you, they can say things to you and so forth and you can hear them.


Diane

So although we don't typically, it's hard to understand them for the most part.


Michael

Yeah.


Michael

To be honest, there's lots of stuff that does that come out though, that really, you can get clear, distinct wording and so forth.


Michael

So occasionally we'll do that if we feel something's in the house.


Diane

Yeah, usually.


Diane

Usually what's come through clearly more than once is when we ask them how many spirits are here and they'll say.


Michael

A number and they'll say seven.


Diane

Definitely.


Diane

Yeah, you can definitely tell.


Diane

And then you ask them again and they say the same number.


Michael

Yeah.


Diane

So it doesn't change.


Diane

Yeah, I'm getting really.


Michael

Or if you ask if it's a male or a female or an adult or a child, you know, we'll get answers that'll say that it is or it isn't.


Michael

So, yeah, it's, it's, you know, it's when you're an empath and when you kind of leave yourself open to that type of thing, I think it leaves the door open.


Michael

You used to look how many times that you Used to be laying in bed and you'd have voices showing up in the room and trying to talk to you that you knew were from the other side.


Michael

And psychics have said that those are mediums, have said that they're there for a message for.


Michael

To talk through you.


Diane

Yeah, I know.


Diane

I remember it, and I remember writing down.


Diane

I don't know where I put them, but I used to write down, especially if it was really detailed, that I would write everything down.


Diane

But at the time, I was.


Diane

I was studying for my degree, so I was working full time and going to school full time, and I just didn't have the time.


Diane

It's like, I just.


Diane

I can't.


Diane

You've got to let me sleep.


Diane

You got to let me sleep.


Diane

I'm sorry.


Diane

I'll let you know when you can come back.


Diane

And I did.


Diane

I.


Diane

When I was done, I was like, okay, you know, you guys can come.


Diane

And they never do.


Diane

I haven't.


Diane

I've never heard it since they found.


Michael

Somebody else to come talk to or to talk to them or listen to them or something along that line.


Michael

But, yeah, it's pretty.


Michael

I mean, it's obviously, you know, experience experiences with the supernatural and the paranormal.


Michael

I think that you have to be open to understanding that they exist and that, you know, there's.


Michael

I've been grateful for the people that have come on this show that have had these experiences.


Michael

You know, the Ghost Sisters and the Ghost Biker that.


Michael

I brought her on, you know, several times, and, you know, it.


Michael

The stories.


Michael

The Ma Barker story blows me away because she went to Ma Barker's house and in sitting at that house, this is where the.


Michael

I think just the Ma Barker episode with Chris Sumner from Paranormal Sisters is like a really, really good episode.


Diane

Is it Paranormal Sisters or Ghost Sisters?


Michael

Because you said Paranormal Sisters.


Michael

Ghost Biker.


Diane

Paranormal Sisters.


Diane

Ghost Biker and Paranormal Sister, two separate.


Diane

But they.


Diane

Sometimes they do things together.


Michael

They do.


Michael

In fact, they own a haunted.


Michael

They bought a jail in Tennessee, an old, like, jail from 1800s, and they bought it together.


Michael

And now it's a museum as well as them giving tours.


Michael

Their haunted tours through it as well.


Michael

But.


Michael

And they traveled all over the place.


Michael

They were at the Allegheny Mental Hospital and I mean, all over.


Michael

All over the east coast, especially, you know, the whole slew of them.


Michael

And then.


Michael

Yes, go back to the show and, you know, type in paranormal or Supernatural.


Michael

And there's a ton of shows that.


Diane

A lot.


Michael

Yeah.


Michael

That we can reference the different.


Michael

Many, many different stories that have come out of those with regard to the Reality of the existence of, you know, spirits and ghosts and what's on the other side and what's good and evil as well.


Diane

It's funny because we might get into conversations sometimes at work about the stuff.


Diane

And when people find out the way I feel about it and the way I believe, they just.


Diane

Most of them are like, you know, so I don't really talk about it that much.


Diane

So I don't know if they see this episode, then they'll know for sure.


Michael

But society and culture, again, it goes back to society and culture in the way you're raised.


Michael

Because a lot of times in culture, they.


Michael

They say you're not allowed to believe in that stuff.


Michael

You know, you're not allowed to believe in reincarnation, you're not allowed to believe in spirits.


Michael

You're not allowed to be even ghost.


Michael

And then if you believe in them.


Michael

Okay.


Michael

But you're not authorized to talk to them.


Diane

Yeah.


Michael

Kind of situation, so.


Diane

Well, I think it has gotten better though, with all of the.


Diane

I mean, look at how many ghost hunting shows are on and they're, I mean, for years, you know, and they have a very big audience and still going strong.


Diane

Yeah.


Diane

And even podcasts that are specifically to that, you know, they're.


Diane

They're some of the most listened to podcasts.


Diane

So I think it is definitely better now.


Diane

You know, people are more open to it now.


Diane

But, you know, there's the one other experience I talked about that real quick, that when we were talking to the girls about this the other day, talking that we wanted to maybe do this, and they were.


Diane

And we were thinking, well, maybe they do it with us.


Diane

And they were like, well, we don't really have very many, but the one.


Diane

They immediately went to this one.


Diane

And it was shortly after your stepdad Burl passed away.


Diane

And the girls and I were in the car and we were in Woodland park of all places.


Michael

And just for the record, they.


Michael

They grew up with Burl as Grandpa.


Michael

Not step, but they grew up with Burl as grandpa.


Michael

So they knew him as Grandpa.


Diane

They.


Diane

Your.


Diane

Your mom and Pearl watch the girls, they babysat the girls for from when they were little, teeny, tiny babies.


Diane

So they were very, very close to him.


Diane

And the girls and I were in the car and we were at a stoplight in Woodland park.


Diane

And all of a sudden the radio, because we always had the radio on, started getting staticky.


Diane

Like really, really loud, loud static.


Diane

And then the static stopped and our car was filled with Burl singing.


Diane

And he was a singer.


Diane

He used to sing Irish Songs, Irish songs.


Diane

He was a Irish tenor, right?


Michael

Irish tenor.


Diane

So it just filled it.


Diane

And we were just looking at each other like, am I the only one hearing that?


Diane

Like, what is happening?


Diane

And it lasted for probably a good 10 seconds, 12 seconds.


Diane

And we were just like, shocked.


Diane

We were.


Diane

We were just in shock.


Michael

Yeah.


Diane

And.


Diane

And that was the first.


Diane

I mean, when we talked to him about you the other day, the girls, both of them, immediately.


Diane

That's the one they went to.


Diane

So I know what happened.


Diane

I know it was real.


Michael

Well, look what I mean.


Michael

Your father passed away here.


Michael

You got in the car and there was something on the radio that you felt was a message from your father, didn't you?


Diane

Oh, well, that.


Diane

Yeah, that was.


Diane

Yeah, that was last year.


Diane

Might have been last year.


Michael

Yeah.


Michael

This is right after he fell asleep, right after he died, when you guys got in the car from Target, after I called you.


Diane

You keep telling me about this, and I don't.


Diane

Honestly, I don't remember this at all.


Diane

So you'll have to say it.


Michael

Well, basically, I remember when I called you because you and your mother were shopping at Target and he had asked you, he told you go out.


Michael

He told your mother to go out.


Diane

I hadn't.


Diane

I had been staying because we knew it was going to be any time that he was going to pass.


Diane

I had stayed in the house.


Diane

I hadn't gone anywhere for like a solid week.


Diane

Like, I just.


Diane

I don't even think I took a shower.


Diane

Like, I was just.


Diane

I was going to be there, and he just didn't want me there.


Diane

And so when he was cognitive, he.


Diane

He made sure that I was out of the house and he wanted.


Diane

He's.


Diane

I don't remember him telling us.


Diane

I think he might have said something to you, and you were like, your dad wants you to go, or what?


Diane

I don't remember exactly.


Diane

So we were at Target, and I don't think we'd even been there.


Diane

We didn't think we'd been there 20 minutes when you.


Michael

Probably 20 minutes at least.


Michael

Probably 15 or 20 minutes.


Michael

Yeah.


Diane

Yeah.


Diane

And so it happened pretty quick.


Diane

But I remember being.


Diane

You keep telling me the story about that I came in and said something about being in the car, but my.


Michael

Mind was, you come in and you said that you were in the car and that you and your mother were getting ready to come here and that, you know, over the radio, you heard, you know, you heard something over the radio.


Michael

Like, it sound like your father telling you that everything is.


Michael

Was fine.


Diane

Why do I remember that?


Michael

Yeah.


Michael

And that you know, you heard.


Michael

You said, I heard Dad's voice.


Michael

And I just, you know.


Diane

Wow.


Diane

I literally don't remember that.


Diane

But if I came in and said it right, then I'm sure it happened.


Diane

I just, for some reason, don't know why that wouldn't be a core memory.


Diane

But.


Diane

But maybe.


Diane

Maybe that's why this other thing happened.


Diane

Like, I don't know if it was this year or last year, but I drive my dad's car, so his car is my car.


Diane

It's been my car, and I don't want to get rid of it.


Diane

It has a six.


Diane

A six CD changer thing in it, and I don't listen.


Diane

Oh, yeah, that's okay.


Michael

No, I mean, six CD changer.


Diane

It's a 2002.


Diane

It's a 2002.


Diane

Okay.


Diane

All right.


Diane

So anyway, it's got a six CD changer in it.


Diane

I don't listen to CDs.


Diane

I just don't because it's too hot here to leave CDs in the car.


Michael

And.


Diane

Okay, so I'm driving to work.


Michael

Which is another ironic reason for what you're about to say.


Diane

Yes.


Diane

So I'm driving to work, and all of a sudden, the song.


Diane

What was the song?


Michael

It's country song.


Diane

No, it was a song they don't play very often.


Diane

And I believe it was a Rita Coolidge song from the 70s.


Diane

And it was literally.


Diane

Oh, no, no, no, I'm sorry, it wasn't Rita Coolidge.


Diane

It was a Donna Summer song.


Diane

I think it was.


Diane

I think it was Hot Stuff or something.


Diane

I don't know.


Diane

But I.


Diane

As soon as it started playing.


Diane

Which they never play that song.


Diane

As soon as I started playing, I went right back to being a kid.


Diane

And I had that.


Diane

I had a lot of.


Diane

I had, like, a collection of 45 records that I would play all the time.


Diane

And that was one of my favorite songs.


Diane

Of course, it was like I was a kid.


Diane

I know what it meant.


Diane

But anyway, I love the song.


Diane

So I had this memory.


Diane

It went right back to my dad.


Diane

It's not gonna be a great memory, but my dad would say when I go in and.


Diane

Or he'd hear me singing.


Diane

Not necessarily hot stuff, but all kinds of songs.


Diane

And I remember him saying to me, yeah, you're kind of tone deaf.


Diane

You probably shouldn't try to do that as a career or something.


Diane

Something like that.


Diane

I was like 10, 11 years old.


Diane

I don't know.


Diane

Yeah, I was probably 10 or 11.


Diane

So, you know, not a great memory.


Diane

Like your dad telling you Your singing sucks.


Diane

But immediately after that memory, I pushed.


Diane

I always push the buttons on the car.


Diane

I know where my radio stations are.


Diane

They're preset.


Diane

I know exactly where they are.


Diane

I don't have to look.


Diane

Some reason I missed the button and I hit the eject on the CD.


Diane

And all of a sudden the CDs start coming out of the car, like one by one.


Diane

And I'm like, what is.


Diane

What is going on?


Diane

I had to pull over because there was these CDs just spitting out as I'm driving.


Diane

So I pull over and they were all his CDs.


Diane

Every single one of them belonged there.


Diane

And they hadn't melted, and they hadn't melted in years.


Diane

Like, they had been in the CD player since 2016 in this.


Michael

And this was last year.


Michael

Hot 110, 115 degrees.


Diane

Yep.


Diane

And I didn't know they were there.


Diane

I had no idea.


Diane

And so, yeah.


Diane

And so I kind of took that as.


Diane

Since it happened so quickly with that bad memory, I took that as dad saying he was sorry.


Diane

And, you know, it's all good and you can sing.


Michael

So there you go.


Michael

That's the way to do.


Michael

Well, that's a nice, happy way to end the episode.


Michael

I guess it's a nice, good memory.


Michael

Better than one where, you know, you're looking at the mirror and your mother's face comes screaming out of the mirror at you.


Diane

That never happened.


Michael

No, I'm just saying it's better than having one of those, right?


Michael

Oh, yeah.


Michael

See, I didn't tell you about mom, did I?


Michael

Oh, I forgot to tell you.


Michael

I forgot to tell you.


Diane

Mom visited me.


Michael

Yeah, mom visited.


Michael

She says hi.


Diane

Oh, God.


Michael

Sorry, Mom.


Michael

If you're listening.


Diane

No, she wouldn't do that.


Michael

Oh, she might do it for fun, maybe.


Michael

Yeah, he might do it for fun.


Michael

That's about it.


Michael

Well, listen, I.


Michael

It is a.


Michael

This is a little bit of memory, a little bit of reminiscing, a little bit of.


Michael

Maybe they weren't completely really, really, really scary as would be.


Michael

But you know when I wish there's a picture of the demon that I should have put the picture of the demon up to show everybody, but.


Michael

Yeah, just.


Michael

You can draw picture of this big old nasty ass thing with a mouth hanging out, almost like alien.


Michael

Like the alien when he gets down in front of.


Michael

In front of Sigourney Weaver's face on the spaceship and he's drooling and.


Michael

And everything like this.


Michael

Now, this is obviously way before that movie even came out, but, you know, a little more screwed up mouth with a lot more sharper teeth and then horns that just went up and over and then wrapped around and, you know, spiky, nasty, scaly, you know, going, I'm going to get you.


Michael

No, no, I want your soul.


Diane

That's what he was saying.


Michael

Yes.


Michael

I said in my favorite Scottish accent, you can't have it.


Michael

So.


Michael

Yeah, it is.


Michael

Yeah.


Michael

So yeah, that's, that's, that's the memory that sticks with me, that's for damn sure.


Michael

Then that would to me.


Diane

Go ahead.


Michael

To me.


Michael

To me, a 12 year old that was, you know, scared, you know, fighting.


Michael

So I didn't pee my pants though.


Michael

So that's good.


Michael

Did not do that.


Michael

Did not.


Diane

Okay.


Michael

Did not.


Diane

Well, I think we're going to clear the house tonight for sure.


Michael

Oh, absolutely.


Michael

Clear the house tonight.


Michael

Well, everybody hope you have a happy, wonderful Halloween and that you're safe and you're sound and make sure that you wearing reflective clothing if you're taking your kids out before you cross the street and check the candy.


Michael

As a copy and a father, I'm going to tell you to check the candy just in case because unfortunately that kind of stuff still happens where people try to lay stuff because they're just, you know, imbecile idiots that really, you know.


Michael

Yeah, I can go on.


Diane

Not good people.


Michael

No.


Michael

But if you have a, you know, you're having a good party and stuff like that, just be careful, drive safe and watch for kids on the roadway and everybody have fun.


Michael

Happy Halloween.


Diane

Happy Halloween.


Diane

Thanks for listening to this episode of One more thing before you go.


Diane

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