Ever wondered what lurks in the shadows or what goes bump in the night? This Halloween 2024 special edition of "Over the TeaCup Sunday" with Michael and Diane takes you on a spine-tingling journey through their scariest and earliest paranormal experiences. From eerie encounters that haunted their childhood to chilling tales that send shivers down their spines, the couple shares stories that will make you question the unknown. As they reminisce about ghostly happenings and the supernatural, grab your favorite tea and settle in for an exploration of the mysteries that lie beyond the veil. Don’t miss this unforgettable episode packed with tales that will keep you on the edge of your seat!
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00:00 - None
00:00 - Intro to the Paranormal
00:02 - Halloween 2024 Special Introduction
01:08 - Spooky Decor and Halloween Plans
02:51 - Memories from Woodland Park
03:36 - The Haunted House Next Door
07:26 - Experiences with Spirits
08:11 - The Victorian Lady Encounter
19:16 - Michael's First Encounter with a Demon
19:28 - Diane's Connection with Her Great Grandmother
44:06 - Signs from Loved Ones
54:37 - Final Thoughts and Halloween Safety Tips
54:42 - Outro and Thanks for Listening
Michael
Hey, one more thing before you go.
Michael
Ever wonder what lurks in the shadows or what goes bump in the night?
Michael
Join us for a special Halloween 2024 edition of over the Teacup Sunday with Michael and Diane where we delve into our scariest and earliest experiences with the paranormal and the supernatural.
Michael
From spine chilling encounters to eerie tales that have haunted us throughout the years.
Michael
We're going to share some stories that will make you question the unknown and perhaps even send shivers down your spine.
Michael
So grab your favorite tea or whatever you're drinking, settle in and let's explore the mysteries that lie beyond the veil.
Michael
This is an episode you won't want to miss.
Michael
Welcome to one more thing before you go.
Michael
I'm your host, Michael Hurst and I'm here with my lovely wife and co host Diane.
Michael
Hey, Diane.
Diane
Hello, Michael.
Michael
You know it's almost Halloween.
Diane
I know.
Diane
Getting excited.
Michael
Pretty close.
Michael
Yep, it's just around the corner.
Michael
And we even got some really cool kind of extra Halloween decorations this year.
Diane
Yes, we did.
Diane
Just a few.
Michael
Just a few.
Michael
I wish we could get a few more.
Michael
But that'll come down next year.
Michael
Maybe next year will be one of those houses that the neighbors go, don't go anywhere near that house.
Michael
Just threw up.
Michael
Halloween.
Diane
No, we already have one of those in the neighborhood that looks like Halloween threw up.
Diane
We don't need another one.
Michael
Well, here would be the difference.
Michael
The difference would be that house and I'm not naming anybody, so it's okay.
Michael
No, I'm not saying anything, but that house is mostly just a bunch of blow up stuff and just kind of a bunch of stuff crammed into a little thing.
Michael
See, next year, next year we're going to do like some spooky movies that are going to be showing on the garage and through the windows and you're going to just be ghouls and ghosts and goblins and lights, lights and you know, that kind of thing.
Michael
So that.
Michael
Yeah, it's going to be.
Diane
And I think we should dress up next year too.
Diane
We don't usually dress up.
Diane
We got to dress up next year.
Michael
We should do that.
Michael
Yes, we should do that.
Michael
Our goal is an old man.
Michael
What are you going on?
Diane
An old woman.
Michael
No, I want to spice it.
Diane
I want to be a witch.
Diane
I was looking for a witch's costumes.
Diane
I want to be a witch.
Michael
Well, we're going to do that and then I'm going to get that thing I've been wanting.
Michael
The 12 foot blow up ghoulie ghost that wears.
Diane
You have been talking about this almost Daily.
Michael
Yes.
Diane
That you want this thing.
Michael
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Diane
Yeah.
Michael
So, yeah, it's going to be fun.
Michael
We're going to.
Michael
Yeah, we're going to light up the neighborhood.
Michael
I think everybody's going to dare.
Michael
Do you remember, remember when we were still living in Woodland Park?
Diane
Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about because I got hurt.
Michael
There was a house down the road.
Michael
Now, we lived up in the mountains about 8, 500ft behind pikes Peak.
Michael
Our front yard basically was the backside of Pikes Peak.
Michael
And yes, we're talking about that Pikes Peak.
Michael
And it was beautiful.
Michael
Now, Halloween, typically every year, pretty much every year the girls were growing up, we typically had a blizzard on Halloween or snow.
Diane
It was always cold.
Michael
So it was a matter of could you get out before it hit or, you know, and get all your stuff done and get the kids back in or did, you know, you just try to go to a party or what?
Michael
But we.
Michael
It was nice because we had a lot of kids that roamed the neighborhood.
Michael
And there was one house, one house you could.
Michael
And look, those are lots.
Michael
You have a regular lot, just a regular lot, like an 8,000 square foot lot like we have here.
Michael
And then we had a third acre lot next to us that divided us between the other neighbors.
Michael
So there was a lot of these up in our neighborhood up there.
Michael
So when I say this, you know, you understand that you could hear the screams coming from that house and they were theoretically probably a block away.
Diane
Yeah, I'd say about a block.
Diane
You could see the house from our front porch.
Michael
Yeah.
Michael
And you could see it because of the fact that we lived the way we all lived up there, where you had acreage between the houses.
Michael
So you can still see that.
Michael
But it was.
Michael
You always lit it up good.
Michael
And tell them what happened.
Michael
Well, first of all, it was nice because you gotta understand the challenge of doing this at 8,500ft in the snow is that you get your kids in the best costume you can get them in, and you get them who they want to be, and then you bundle them up for the winter and then you have to run them up to the house.
Michael
Everybody gets driven around mostly, and then you run them up to the house and then you unzip their jacket and show everybody their costumes.
Diane
Costumes.
Michael
Hey, everyone.
Michael
See your costumes.
Michael
And then get a candy and you give your candy.
Michael
Then they zip them back up again and then you run back to the car.
Diane
Yeah.
Diane
So, yeah, it's much different here in Arizona.
Diane
We were.
Diane
We were.
Diane
It was a different.
Diane
Different way to do Halloween.
Diane
Different world for sure.
Michael
So that one house you drew up to it and.
Diane
One house.
Michael
Yeah, that one house.
Diane
So, well, they, they did have like all the spooky stuff playing and the sounds and the screams and everything, but.
Michael
It was very creative.
Michael
Very, very creative.
Diane
It was creative.
Diane
But on the front porch they had a.
Diane
Every year they had like this big life size scarecrow or so I think it felt like it was.
Michael
Well, also that for a while.
Michael
He did it himself for a while.
Diane
No, no, no.
Diane
This is what, this is what happened every year.
Diane
It was that life size scarecrow sitting in the chair.
Diane
So every year that's what I was expecting.
Diane
And then the one year that I go up to with the kids, it was him and I didn't expect it.
Diane
And he scared the crap out of me and I tripped and I twisted my ankle.
Diane
I literally got hurt.
Michael
I'm not laughing at the twisting your ankle, but.
Diane
I know.
Michael
But yeah, you could hear kids screaming and you could hear adults screaming.
Diane
Yeah, because he.
Diane
Because it usually was.
Diane
I mean, it was scary enough with just the life size one, but it probably.
Diane
After a few years, everybody got used to it.
Diane
He's like, well, this isn't working anymore.
Diane
I'm going to dress up like that dummy.
Diane
And yeah, it worked.
Michael
And it worked.
Diane
It worked big time.
Diane
It was very scary.
Michael
It's like, happy Halloween.
Michael
Happy Halloween.
Diane
One Halloween.
Diane
Happy Halloweeny.
Diane
And then the one time that it was so there was.
Diane
I don't even know why I even had the kids out.
Diane
I know you were working, but I went ahead and drove the kids around in a blizzard and we were in our own neighborhood and literally got lost.
Diane
I had no idea where I was.
Diane
Know where the road was.
Diane
It was crazy.
Diane
And I.
Diane
I think after that we just.
Diane
We really didn't know much, you know.
Michael
Yeah, it was kind of one of those.
Michael
Yeah.
Michael
But, you know, I think a lot of that also started doing.
Michael
Eventually we also started going to parties where all the kids were because the winters were getting kind of crappy.
Michael
And that's one reason we moved to Arizona.
Michael
But still a beautiful place.
Michael
Still miss it, you know?
Michael
Still.
Michael
But that house, that house we lived in there.
Michael
There were spirits around it.
Michael
There were spirits.
Diane
It was haunted.
Diane
Cannot convince me it was not haunted.
Diane
And we lived there 15 years.
Michael
We did live there 15 years.
Michael
Co jointly with the entities we'll call them.
Diane
Yes, I did.
Michael
Kids saw them all the time.
Michael
And Nikki used to wake up with night terrors because of it and used to see kids playing.
Michael
She said those kids were playing and Dancing right there and, you know, won't leave me alone type stuff.
Michael
And Caitlin, I think Caitlin saw a.
Michael
I think both kids and I don't know if you did or not.
Michael
Didn't they see a Victorian?
Diane
Well, I had.
Diane
Yeah, I had.
Diane
So I didn't see her.
Diane
But I'll tell the story about what happened.
Diane
Or did we want to start chronologically of like our first experiences and then work up or not?
Michael
Well, let's go and tell this one and then we'll go back.
Diane
Okay.
Diane
Okay.
Diane
So, yeah, so the girls would see this.
Diane
They always described her as Victorian looking woman, but she was nice, you know, and she.
Diane
I don't remember them ever.
Diane
Well, no, Katie said she didn't.
Diane
Katie remembers not seeing her but hearing her and then Nikki doesn't really remember any of it.
Diane
But I.
Diane
It's a core memory for me.
Diane
I remember distinctly because we had gone to dinner.
Diane
The girls were old enough to stay by themselves.
Diane
They were like, I think 12 and 10 or something.
Diane
And we just real quick went to dinner, the two of us, and we came home and they were just beyond petrified.
Diane
And just as soon as we walked in the door, they like, oh my God.
Diane
Oh my God.
Diane
This is what happened.
Diane
This is what we saw.
Diane
So it's weird that they don't really remember as well as I do, but they described her as like a Victorian looking woman and kind of.
Diane
My mother has these pictures.
Diane
She's had them for years.
Diane
I think she still has them of just a lady dressed up kind of in that era with a little girl and that they said, you know, that picture grandma has, that was her.
Diane
It looked just like her.
Michael
Maybe followed them home maybe.
Diane
And so, you know, they were, they were just.
Diane
They were scared, but they were like, well, but she didn't.
Diane
It was just a scary thing to experience because it was, you know, spirit.
Diane
But they were like, well, that she was okay.
Diane
Like, we're not scared of her.
Diane
It was just a weird.
Michael
The experience itself and just to preface it just everybody understands that we lived in a.
Michael
Willow park was a small town at that time and you know, neighbors watched the neighbors and.
Michael
And so forth.
Michael
So, you know, and the kids were old.
Michael
Caitlin was old enough to.
Michael
To babysit her sister.
Diane
And yeah, we.
Diane
We didn't go very far either for dinner.
Diane
It wasn't like we were gone that way.
Michael
Yeah, very small town and so forth.
Michael
So we weren't putting our kids in danger or leaving them.
Diane
No, no.
Michael
And everybody.
Michael
But then everybody in town knew I was a cop anyway.
Michael
And you know, there was an assistant district attorney living behind us.
Michael
And.
Diane
So when this happened, you know, they said, well, she was nice.
Diane
And she, you know, seemed to like she was trying to take care of us or something.
Diane
That's how they felt.
Diane
So I think it was only a few weeks, maybe a month after this happened.
Diane
I was, of course, running late for work, because that was always the thing.
Diane
And I was looking for a pair of socks.
Diane
I needed my socks.
Diane
I need to get my shoes on.
Diane
You remember this?
Michael
Yes, I do remember this.
Diane
Oh, my God.
Diane
I'm getting.
Diane
I'm, like, just thinking about.
Diane
Okay, so our laundry room was in the downstairs part, the basement part.
Diane
And I run down there.
Diane
I go into the dryer, which.
Diane
The dryer was kind of over here.
Diane
The washing machine was over here.
Diane
They weren't.
Diane
They weren't side by side.
Diane
It was a weird.
Diane
It was an old house.
Diane
It was just a weird setup.
Diane
So the dryer's on the other side and the washers away from it.
Diane
And I knew that I just washed them, so I knew they were there.
Diane
So I go in the dryer, and I'm looking for these socks.
Diane
I'm looking for these socks.
Diane
I'm looking.
Diane
I'm looking for.
Diane
I'm digging out everything for these socks.
Diane
They are not there.
Diane
And I'm like, I just put them in last night.
Diane
I know they're here.
Diane
I'm late for work.
Diane
So I slam the dryer, and I turn around and look at the washing machine.
Diane
And on top of the washing machine are the socks side by side, perfectly ironed, flat.
Michael
Like, I want to know how it goes to iron socks.
Diane
I don't know, because obviously they don't even come out of the dryer looking ironed.
Diane
They looked flat, ironed, perfect.
Diane
And side by side, like, even the feet were facing the right directions on top of the washing machine.
Michael
And I'll tell you, we had two cats.
Michael
And these cats never were really freaked out in the house.
Michael
They, you know, usually cats are very observant when it comes to that.
Michael
You know, they really didn't freak out around the house.
Michael
Actually, we had three, when you count Max.
Michael
Max was there first, and then we had Sassy Dakota after Max passed away.
Michael
And, you know, there really wasn't a whole lot of issue, but, you know, history is that, you know, this house, Woodland park, is at the top of Ute Pass.
Michael
Ute Pass was an area where Native Americans travel from, like, Manitou Springs and up from Garden of the Gods and from the Cave of the Winds and from the cliff dwellings and everything, and had that's where they traveled up to Woodland Park.
Michael
So, you know, there's a lot of history there.
Michael
There's a lot of.
Diane
To the land.
Michael
To the land.
Michael
There's history to the land, and there's history to the land for settlers as well.
Michael
Some, you know, Western settlers.
Michael
So.
Michael
Well, you know.
Diane
Yeah, I.
Diane
And I didn't.
Diane
I was just like, oh, okay.
Diane
Thank you.
Diane
I appreciate your help.
Diane
I grabbed the socks and I ran back upstairs.
Diane
And I'm like, you're not gonna believe what happened.
Diane
I don't have time to tell you, but this is crazy.
Diane
So after that, I just kind of always just talked to her, you know, and said, hey, you know, thanks for the.
Diane
Thanks for the assistance and thanks for watching over the girls.
Diane
And, you know, and then I think it was after that that Katie moved her room downstairs like you had moved your office, and she moved her room in there.
Diane
And she did not sleep well downstairs at all.
Diane
She did not sleep.
Diane
She didn't like it.
Diane
And I know the first.
Diane
The first night we spent there, actually, she was just a baby and you and I.
Diane
And she spent the night on the living room floor.
Diane
I mean, we didn't have any furniture or anything.
Diane
I felt it.
Diane
I felt many things going on.
Diane
Like it was.
Michael
That was an empty house.
Michael
And the.
Michael
We had skylights, huge 4 by 8 skylights across the whole roof so you could look up and see the stars.
Michael
You know, that's.
Michael
I missed looking up and seeing all those stories.
Michael
You can.
Michael
It was like at the top of the.
Michael
It's like being in an observatory.
Michael
You could see so many of them.
Michael
But, you know, and realistically, there was the.
Michael
You know, we felt over the years that there was some stuff that was really negative that was showing up there.
Michael
And in fact, so much so that we had a friend of mine, I worked a lot with some individuals, not just work, but I had known many Native Americans down in the Mountaineer Springs area and the Cave of the Winds and cliff dwelling area and Colorado Springs, west side Colorado Springs and so forth.
Michael
And a friend of mine, very good friend of mine, Robert Taltree, he's one of the very few recognized medicine men for the tribe and for the whole tribe in the whole western region.
Michael
And he and his wife came up and they ended up cleaning, clearing the land in our house for us with a Native American ceremony because, I mean, Nikki was waking up with night terrors.
Michael
And, you know, although the Victorian lady seemed to be okay, but, you know, we started.
Diane
The rest of them didn't seem to be negative.
Michael
Yeah, negative stuff.
Michael
That was coming through, some evil type things that were coming through.
Michael
We'd hear growls, we'd hear, you know.
Michael
Yeah, you could see shadows and, you know, you watch some of these ghost shows talk about shadows and moving around.
Michael
We could see the shadows moving around and so forth.
Diane
I don't know how.
Diane
How we stayed there that long, but we did.
Michael
Well, we.
Michael
Again, it helped having, you know, a medicine man come and, you know, do this for us.
Michael
And he.
Michael
They walked the whole property and had a drum and they were smudging.
Diane
We'd been in the house.
Diane
It was.
Diane
I mean, they came later, like when we were probably, what year 13.
Diane
Like that, you think?
Diane
Yeah, it didn't feel like that to me.
Diane
Well, if we live there much longer with all this going on, but.
Michael
Well, I mean, it had to be.
Michael
It was.
Michael
It was before I retired.
Michael
So I retired in 99.
Diane
Well, we.
Diane
We lived there 15 years and we moved out in 2004 shortly after you.
Diane
Oh, well, I guess not.
Diane
You had been retired 99.
Diane
So.
Michael
So, you know, it.
Michael
It was five or six years before we moved out because I was just.
Michael
I've been diagnosed with rheumatoid, you know, and she was going to help me with my hand.
Michael
She's always looking my hand and she's gonna always.
Diane
That's right.
Diane
That's right.
Michael
And that kind of a thing.
Michael
So.
Michael
But yeah, I want to talk about the first time you've had an experience, but I could pause.
Michael
So, you know, we've known each.
Michael
We've known each other for a little more than 35 years.
Michael
We've been married for 35 years.
Michael
So, you know, obviously we've had experiences of our own together as a family, as a couple, as a family, which we'll talk a little bit more about.
Michael
But that's one of the reasons why on here, on.
Michael
One more thing before you go.
Michael
I bring on people who have experiences like that, as well as people who.
Michael
Mediums and psychics and supernatural individuals and experts within this industry that I feel can educate, inspire, motivate people with regard to the supernatural and the paranormal.
Michael
Because I believe that there is a veil here and that that veil gets thinner and it's getting thinner and thinner anyway, but I think during Halloween, it gets a little bit more thinner so that there's more activity goes.
Michael
And as a cop, Halloween used to be, you know, the times that I.
Michael
That I.
Michael
I was lucky enough to work, stay home, but there were also times that unfortunately I had to work quite a bit.
Michael
And through both the county and through, you know, the police department.
Michael
So you would see a spike in this type of thing and calls for this and you know, people sneaking in the cemetery and trying to do stuff.
Michael
And you know, in our areas we had everything from there.
Michael
So Satanist cult down in the cemetery right now, sacrificing a baby and you know, and all kinds of junk like that.
Michael
But never found that, by the way.
Diane
Just good.
Diane
I'm glad to know that.
Michael
But you know, you would see an uptick in things and you would also, you know, it was just a feeling.
Michael
What was your first ever?
Michael
I mean, I told you and I'll tell you about it in a minute, but what was your first ever kind of supernatural paranormal experience?
Diane
Yeah, the first one I know I can remember, I was about nine, I think, and had been a couple of years.
Diane
Probably a couple years since my great grandmother had passed away.
Diane
And my great grandmother was.
Diane
So my great grandparents built the house they lived in in California.
Diane
And they also built a house on the other part of the lot.
Diane
And they painted it pink.
Diane
I don't know why, but we all called it the pink house.
Diane
And that was actually my first home.
Diane
So I.
Diane
For the first few years of my life, I saw my great grandparents a lot.
Diane
And we were still living in California when she passed away.
Diane
I think we moved the next year to Colorado.
Diane
So we were in Colorado at the time.
Diane
And I was like nine, maybe eight.
Diane
Eight or nine.
Diane
And I remember coming out of my parents bedroom and looking down the hallway and she's just right there.
Diane
Like she's right there.
Michael
And your great grandmother?
Diane
My great grandmother.
Diane
And the best way to describe it, I mean, stop me in my tracks, she looked like a hologram.
Diane
I mean, that was the best way to describe it.
Diane
It was detailed enough that I, I mean it was her.
Diane
It was 100 her.
Diane
And I even said.
Diane
I even said, grandma, is that you?
Diane
And she just, she, she didn't say anything.
Diane
She nodded and smiled and I was like, I can't believe.
Diane
Like I can't believe you're here.
Diane
And I mean, I just, I don't even.
Diane
I think that's all I said.
Diane
Like, I couldn't even get the words out.
Diane
And it didn't scare me.
Diane
It was just like, wow, this is cool, you know, and she just kind of smiled and then just faded.
Michael
She was gone and just gone.
Michael
And that's.
Michael
I mean, how'd that make you feel this time?
Michael
You tell anybody?
Michael
So you told your dad?
Diane
I told my mom.
Diane
Dad.
Diane
And of course they didn't believe me, especially my dad.
Diane
Like, no, you Know, my mom just.
Diane
I don't know if she would believe me or just kind of blew it off, but.
Michael
Well, your mom also grew up very, very religious and from a very, very strict religious family.
Michael
A lot of times they don't believe in that stuff.
Michael
And, you know, I grew up Catholic, in which I've spoken about many, many times on the show, that.
Michael
That the type of environment I grew up in, you weren't supposed to believe in that kind of stuff.
Michael
And that just didn't happen, didn't exist.
Diane
I think back on it, I'm thinking, you know, if they had actually, like, believed me or, you know, kind of encouraged that, I mean, I don't know where I'd be because we'll get into more.
Diane
We'll talk more about the stuff that I've also experienced, but could have been a whole different life for me, you know.
Michael
Well, it is.
Michael
I think that.
Michael
And again, I've talked about this on the show quite a bit as well.
Michael
The fact is that as kids, society and culture, unfortunately, we as children growing up, when we have experiences like that, society and culture has shut them down for the most.
Michael
At least here in America, for the most part, shut them down.
Michael
And most of them, it's like, well, you can't do that.
Michael
You can't see that you don't have an imaginary friend, even though you may be.
Michael
And I've spoken to mediums and psychics that said, well, yeah, it wasn't an imaginary friend.
Michael
It was actually somebody I was talking to.
Michael
And they thought it was my imaginary friend type thing.
Michael
But then they tell you, you can't do that.
Michael
You can't have imaginary friend.
Michael
It shuts them down and shuts it off.
Michael
So there's.
Michael
There are people that have had experiences like this that are afraid to talk about it because they're afraid of the ramifications, especially from their family members that specifically said it doesn't exist.
Michael
You know, when you die, you either.
Michael
It's one of three things, at least in Catholic religion.
Michael
You either go to heaven, you go to hell, you go in purgatory, and, you know, purgatory, you wander the earth.
Michael
Well, here's some shocker news for everybody out there who thinks purgatory, you know, believes in purgatory and wanders the earth.
Michael
Well, that's the shadows you see, that's the people you see.
Michael
That's the ghost you see.
Michael
So even they kind of contradicted their selves, didn't they?
Michael
Just a wee bit, because there it is.
Michael
And, you know, I think that there are Spirits here that have unfinished business.
Michael
I do believe in evil spirits and negative entities.
Michael
And we've talked about fallen angels.
Michael
You know, here we had the one episode we did that I did here with Angel Talker that we were talking about fallen angels and dark angels and that, you know, when you.
Michael
That they're here, they try to influence you, they try to motivate you, they try to, you know, entice you to the dark side, so to speak.
Michael
And I didn't even hear the episode.
Michael
I'll have to reference the episode in the show notes, but there's an extended version of the episode.
Michael
We'd released one episode, the original one, without it, but when I was editing it, you know, I said, hey, could you listen to this, see what you think?
Michael
And left it with you for a minute.
Michael
And I had to go do some necessities.
Michael
And when I came back out, you go, did you hear this?
Michael
Did you hear this?
Michael
Did you hear this?
Michael
Did you see this?
Michael
And I went, no, you got it.
Michael
What are you talking about?
Michael
And you, you played it for me.
Michael
And clearly we were having.
Diane
Clear as a bell.
Michael
Yeah.
Michael
Technical issues and technical problems because she was telling me about the dark angels and everything about the dark angels and what they did and what they meant.
Diane
And, you know, and you kept having, you kept having technical issues, screwing with the episode.
Michael
Exactly.
Michael
All the time.
Diane
Right.
Michael
And in fact, it, it kept freezing and it kept locking up and we had to keep trying to go back to it.
Michael
And it.
Michael
While I was sitting here waiting for her to come back and so forth, there was clearly a deep throated, nasty ass growl that.
Michael
And it was clear as day when heard the raw video.
Michael
It was clear as day and it was like, whoa.
Michael
And I reached back out to her and she's a celebrity psychic medium.
Michael
And again, I'll leave reference in the, in the show notes about how to find that episode.
Michael
But yeah, it was kind of, kind of crazy.
Michael
And you know, to me it's.
Michael
It was like.
Michael
It was theoretically, because my microphone's right in front of me and it's a directional microphone, which means if I go over here and I'm talking, my voice goes away very much.
Michael
When I come back here, you hear much more straight on voice and so forth.
Michael
And they were over my head.
Diane
Yeah.
Michael
So, you know.
Michael
Yeah, just kind of.
Diane
Which then reminded you of what you experienced when you were.
Michael
Reminded me of when I was about 12 years old.
Michael
Yeah.
Michael
You know, I grew up in a very dysfunctional family.
Michael
Of course, I think I mentioned that before, but I also grew up in one that, you know, my father believed in it wholeheartedly.
Michael
My mother shirked Catholic.
Michael
But when I grew up, I was a latchkey kid.
Michael
And, you know, we spent a lot of time, me and my brother, we spent a lot of time.
Diane
You hear him growls, I literally am.
Diane
But I don't know, maybe.
Diane
Maybe it was a car or something outside.
Diane
Literally, there was something that just.
Diane
Okay, go ahead.
Michael
So there was an evening where my brother and I were there by ourselves and I was downstairs.
Michael
I had a room downstairs in our house.
Michael
And in Colorado, when you have a basement, it's a basement.
Michael
You know, you have.
Michael
Usually you have windows that are.
Michael
You can look up through, or they are ground.
Michael
You know, you can see the ground through the window.
Michael
It's ground level type thing.
Michael
So anyway, we're down in the basement.
Michael
And the reason I say that is because they're typically darker, you know, so that, you know, it's not like an upstairs room where you've got a much more lighter ambient light or, or, you know, this kind of thing.
Michael
So they're.
Michael
They're darker or they have to be well lit through your own lighting, whether it be ceiling lighting or whatever the case may be.
Michael
But, you know, I was laying on my bed and I can't remember what was going on.
Michael
But, you know, I ended up feeling a presence in the room with me.
Michael
And in feeling that presence in the room with me, I got up and I turned around and I was right in front of me.
Michael
And I know people are going to never believe this, but right in front of me was a demon.
Michael
And I can describe him to you.
Diane
You've drawn him?
Michael
I've drawn the pictures before.
Michael
Is that vivid to me?
Michael
And it's still, to this day, is vivid.
Michael
I can still close my eyes and see it.
Michael
And had big horns and scaly skin and, you know, glowing eyes and, you know, all the stuff that you hear about in the scary movies, though, that's exactly what was in my face.
Michael
And, you know, the head, gnarly teeth and drooling and backed me up against the wall and, you know, we had a conversation and he was right in my face, about three inches from my face.
Michael
I could smell the sulfur and the nasty smells and everything along with it.
Diane
And so what was the conversation?
Michael
I don't fully recall the whole conversation, but it was.
Michael
He was basically trying to entice me into the.
Michael
An evil side of life and, you know, and kind of a thing.
Michael
And I think that, you know, part of, you know, my father was a bad alcoholic and I Think that that had something to do with that as well.
Michael
I think that by that time though, the.
Michael
They had split up.
Michael
My mother and my father had split up.
Michael
But you know, they.
Michael
We never really, we never really knew why he was drinking as much as he was drinking.
Michael
But I think that it had association to that is what I'm thinking and so forth.
Michael
So, you know, I basically did my best to rebuke it and say that, you know, basically f you and I'm not going to do what you're telling me to do and I'm not going to do what you are trying to do and you know, you need to leave this house and.
Diane
Wow.
Diane
Yeah, that's scary at any age, but at 12 years old, that's.
Michael
Yeah, it was pretty crazy.
Michael
Had me backed up right to the wall.
Michael
And I say the smells, the sights, the sounds, the feeling, the apprehension, the.
Michael
Everything that's associated with it.
Michael
So I've never forgotten it.
Michael
But you know, when I get to conversations like this and I think I've mentioned it, I may have mentioned it a couple times in conversation with some of these psychics and mediums and you know, they absolutely said it was a demon and the demon was there to cause trouble and so forth.
Diane
Did you ever.
Diane
Did you ever experience it again or that was it?
Michael
That was it because I said, I think that they found that I was not, not trying to sound egotistical, but I was not, I was not prone to, you know, it wasn't going to happen.
Michael
Basically.
Diane
You were not a willing participant in that.
Michael
I'm not willing to participate in that and so forth.
Michael
So, you know, it.
Michael
Which, you know, who knows, the way my brother is at the moment, maybe it followed him home and stayed with him, not following him home.
Michael
But you know, I don't know.
Michael
But it was, that was my first experience with that.
Michael
And you know, there, you know, a couple times, a few times after that I've had experiences where I heard, you know, voices and seen shadows and things like that as continuing to grow up and you know, but nothing as intense.
Michael
Not nothing that intense, but I can absolutely say, 100% say how that was just, you know, this huge, horned, you know, nasty sulfur breath, drooling demon was right in my face and.
Diane
And that.
Diane
That was your first experience?
Michael
That was my first experience.
Diane
So, yeah, my comparing first experiences, I think I came out the winner there.
Michael
You got your great grandma, I got my what the hell.
Diane
Wow.
Michael
From hell.
Michael
Yeah, kind of thing.
Michael
But you know, at the same time, it also had taught me in my life that you know, no matter what come on up to or whatever I'm up, I'm faced with is that if I, you know, I beat that.
Diane
You could beat anything.
Michael
I could beat anything.
Michael
It gave me a fortitude and the strength to be able to.
Michael
My faith, you know, allowed me to.
Michael
Because that was faith.
Michael
I had a lot of faith in angels anyway, because it'd been with me in the past and at different points in my lifetime and even as a child, and mostly as a child.
Michael
So is one of those things where you said to have faith with that.
Michael
It still makes me a little nervous, but, you know, it's.
Diane
Oh, yeah.
Diane
But it also, the times you've talked about it, you.
Diane
You start talking about it like, you know, very matter of fact.
Diane
And by the end of it, you're.
Diane
You can tell or I can tell that you're like, okay, don't.
Diane
Don't want to revisit that again.
Diane
Don't want to talk about that.
Michael
It also, you know, that's why when we watch a scary, scary, scary movie and everybody else jumps at it, it really does bother me.
Diane
Right.
Michael
Like watching the nun in the middle of the movie screen and Mickey climbs behind me.
Michael
It's, you know, it's kind of one of those things you kind of have, but that, you know, and I've had experiences, you know, off and on throughout that, where I hear voices, where I feel presences or, you know, that's why I clear the house every night, because I'll feel the presence and I'll feel.
Michael
I'll feel the bed.
Michael
I've told you before, I feel like somebody's sitting down on the bed or pushing on the bed right beside me or trying to sit down and so forth and.
Michael
Or push down by my feet kind of a thing.
Michael
And you're in bed and, you know, it's not you and it's not Charlie, and there's nobody else in the house.
Michael
You're not supposed to be kind of a thing, but you can feel it.
Michael
You can see it.
Michael
You can actually feel the bed.
Diane
I feel the bed shake sometimes.
Michael
Yeah.
Diane
The end of the bed.
Michael
So a lot of times we also have positive energies in here as well.
Michael
So we've had positive people, positive entities that have come in and that we've noticed about.
Michael
So it's not all about the.
Michael
Just the scary ass shit, but we've had positive things go.
Michael
As a cop, you know, there were several places that we responded to that were allegedly haunted that, you know, there was one place in itself, Cliff House, and that had burned down twice, and many, many people were killed in both of those.
Michael
From.
Michael
It was built in the 1800s, and then it burned down.
Michael
It was built again, rebuilt in the 1900s, and then again, it recently was redone, but probably 10 or 12 years ago, they remodeled it and rebuilt it.
Michael
But, you know, I hated going into that place.
Michael
Every time I went to that place, we get a call, you know, and we went in there and found people doing cult stuff and Satanist stuff and that kind of crap.
Michael
But, you know, I hated going into the Cliff House on a call in there because it was like, what the hell am I gonna run into in here?
Michael
Situation.
Michael
And you could feel the presence.
Diane
Yeah.
Diane
And you're open to that, especially with what you experienced.
Diane
You.
Diane
You were already open to it, so you knew that, you know, if it was something bad, you were going to experience it so.
Michael
Well, exactly.
Michael
And, you know, and you could feel the hair on the back of your neck rise up when you know they're behind you and you feel like somebody behind you.
Michael
It's like, I know somebody's back there kind of a thing.
Michael
So, you know, and it's.
Michael
It is.
Michael
Like I said, it's.
Michael
It's better than the negative ones.
Michael
So, you know, when you have the negative ones, it is one of those things that stick with you quite a bit, actually.
Diane
Yep.
Michael
You know, kind of.
Michael
And even.
Michael
And even in this house, I mean, there's been times that we kind of go.
Michael
There was a shadow.
Michael
We saw a shadow walk by, or we felt something walk by, or Charlie.
Diane
Charlie will just suddenly stare, stare.
Diane
And you can't get him to stop.
Diane
Like, you cannot.
Diane
He.
Diane
He's not.
Diane
He won't listen to us at all.
Michael
Something else or somebody else kind of a thing.
Michael
And, you know, he does that quite a bit as well, which is kind of like crap.
Diane
Well, and then even.
Diane
I mean, as stupid as the automatic trash can that we have, you know, I know it's down.
Diane
It's shut when we go to bed, and then I'll come out in the morning, and it's wide open.
Michael
And it's wide open.
Diane
And the only thing that opens it is motion.
Diane
So.
Michael
Yeah.
Diane
You know, and then we've also, you know, we have that camera that's set up in the living room, and you used to have the app.
Diane
I don't know if we still do that.
Michael
I do.
Diane
Okay.
Diane
So we.
Diane
There's been times if we start hearing things, we'll open up the app.
Diane
We're in bed.
Diane
We'll open up the app and see that it's like just orbs, orbs everywhere in the camera.
Michael
So anybody that knows, for those of you that don't know what an orb is, okay, if you watch one of these ghost adventure shows or you watch any one of the ghost hunting shows, or listen to the people that I've interviewed on this show, and orb is a spirit that's a, you'll, you'll see them, the energy move in a round sphere and it doesn't move like dust and it doesn't move like a bug.
Michael
It doesn't move.
Michael
I mean, it moves very methodically and you can see it very clearly and distinctly as a round orb.
Michael
And yeah, we've, we have had.
Michael
We can watch them.
Michael
We just literally watch them.
Michael
And you'll see some of them that will move around and spin back around, like go up and then turn around and come back down again.
Michael
And you know, the type of video we've, we've got, you know, the 4K video, you can tell it's not a bug and it's definitely not dust.
Michael
So, you know, that happens.
Michael
And then we've got, you know, we've got this little program from a guy that Huff paranormal.
Michael
Those individuals that are on YouTube right now, which you can see, they kind of talk to the other side.
Michael
They created, this guy created a, an app that literally allows you to.
Michael
Because they talk on a different frequency and they can talk to you, they can say things to you and so forth and you can hear them.
Diane
So although we don't typically, it's hard to understand them for the most part.
Michael
Yeah.
Michael
To be honest, there's lots of stuff that does that come out though, that really, you can get clear, distinct wording and so forth.
Michael
So occasionally we'll do that if we feel something's in the house.
Diane
Yeah, usually.
Diane
Usually what's come through clearly more than once is when we ask them how many spirits are here and they'll say.
Michael
A number and they'll say seven.
Diane
Definitely.
Diane
Yeah, you can definitely tell.
Diane
And then you ask them again and they say the same number.
Michael
Yeah.
Diane
So it doesn't change.
Diane
Yeah, I'm getting really.
Michael
Or if you ask if it's a male or a female or an adult or a child, you know, we'll get answers that'll say that it is or it isn't.
Michael
So, yeah, it's, it's, you know, it's when you're an empath and when you kind of leave yourself open to that type of thing, I think it leaves the door open.
Michael
You used to look how many times that you Used to be laying in bed and you'd have voices showing up in the room and trying to talk to you that you knew were from the other side.
Michael
And psychics have said that those are mediums, have said that they're there for a message for.
Michael
To talk through you.
Diane
Yeah, I know.
Diane
I remember it, and I remember writing down.
Diane
I don't know where I put them, but I used to write down, especially if it was really detailed, that I would write everything down.
Diane
But at the time, I was.
Diane
I was studying for my degree, so I was working full time and going to school full time, and I just didn't have the time.
Diane
It's like, I just.
Diane
I can't.
Diane
You've got to let me sleep.
Diane
You got to let me sleep.
Diane
I'm sorry.
Diane
I'll let you know when you can come back.
Diane
And I did.
Diane
I.
Diane
When I was done, I was like, okay, you know, you guys can come.
Diane
And they never do.
Diane
I haven't.
Diane
I've never heard it since they found.
Michael
Somebody else to come talk to or to talk to them or listen to them or something along that line.
Michael
But, yeah, it's pretty.
Michael
I mean, it's obviously, you know, experience experiences with the supernatural and the paranormal.
Michael
I think that you have to be open to understanding that they exist and that, you know, there's.
Michael
I've been grateful for the people that have come on this show that have had these experiences.
Michael
You know, the Ghost Sisters and the Ghost Biker that.
Michael
I brought her on, you know, several times, and, you know, it.
Michael
The stories.
Michael
The Ma Barker story blows me away because she went to Ma Barker's house and in sitting at that house, this is where the.
Michael
I think just the Ma Barker episode with Chris Sumner from Paranormal Sisters is like a really, really good episode.
Diane
Is it Paranormal Sisters or Ghost Sisters?
Michael
Because you said Paranormal Sisters.
Michael
Ghost Biker.
Diane
Paranormal Sisters.
Diane
Ghost Biker and Paranormal Sister, two separate.
Diane
But they.
Diane
Sometimes they do things together.
Michael
They do.
Michael
In fact, they own a haunted.
Michael
They bought a jail in Tennessee, an old, like, jail from 1800s, and they bought it together.
Michael
And now it's a museum as well as them giving tours.
Michael
Their haunted tours through it as well.
Michael
But.
Michael
And they traveled all over the place.
Michael
They were at the Allegheny Mental Hospital and I mean, all over.
Michael
All over the east coast, especially, you know, the whole slew of them.
Michael
And then.
Michael
Yes, go back to the show and, you know, type in paranormal or Supernatural.
Michael
And there's a ton of shows that.
Diane
A lot.
Michael
Yeah.
Michael
That we can reference the different.
Michael
Many, many different stories that have come out of those with regard to the Reality of the existence of, you know, spirits and ghosts and what's on the other side and what's good and evil as well.
Diane
It's funny because we might get into conversations sometimes at work about the stuff.
Diane
And when people find out the way I feel about it and the way I believe, they just.
Diane
Most of them are like, you know, so I don't really talk about it that much.
Diane
So I don't know if they see this episode, then they'll know for sure.
Michael
But society and culture, again, it goes back to society and culture in the way you're raised.
Michael
Because a lot of times in culture, they.
Michael
They say you're not allowed to believe in that stuff.
Michael
You know, you're not allowed to believe in reincarnation, you're not allowed to believe in spirits.
Michael
You're not allowed to be even ghost.
Michael
And then if you believe in them.
Michael
Okay.
Michael
But you're not authorized to talk to them.
Diane
Yeah.
Michael
Kind of situation, so.
Diane
Well, I think it has gotten better though, with all of the.
Diane
I mean, look at how many ghost hunting shows are on and they're, I mean, for years, you know, and they have a very big audience and still going strong.
Diane
Yeah.
Diane
And even podcasts that are specifically to that, you know, they're.
Diane
They're some of the most listened to podcasts.
Diane
So I think it is definitely better now.
Diane
You know, people are more open to it now.
Diane
But, you know, there's the one other experience I talked about that real quick, that when we were talking to the girls about this the other day, talking that we wanted to maybe do this, and they were.
Diane
And we were thinking, well, maybe they do it with us.
Diane
And they were like, well, we don't really have very many, but the one.
Diane
They immediately went to this one.
Diane
And it was shortly after your stepdad Burl passed away.
Diane
And the girls and I were in the car and we were in Woodland park of all places.
Michael
And just for the record, they.
Michael
They grew up with Burl as Grandpa.
Michael
Not step, but they grew up with Burl as grandpa.
Michael
So they knew him as Grandpa.
Diane
They.
Diane
Your.
Diane
Your mom and Pearl watch the girls, they babysat the girls for from when they were little, teeny, tiny babies.
Diane
So they were very, very close to him.
Diane
And the girls and I were in the car and we were at a stoplight in Woodland park.
Diane
And all of a sudden the radio, because we always had the radio on, started getting staticky.
Diane
Like really, really loud, loud static.
Diane
And then the static stopped and our car was filled with Burl singing.
Diane
And he was a singer.
Diane
He used to sing Irish Songs, Irish songs.
Diane
He was a Irish tenor, right?
Michael
Irish tenor.
Diane
So it just filled it.
Diane
And we were just looking at each other like, am I the only one hearing that?
Diane
Like, what is happening?
Diane
And it lasted for probably a good 10 seconds, 12 seconds.
Diane
And we were just like, shocked.
Diane
We were.
Diane
We were just in shock.
Michael
Yeah.
Diane
And.
Diane
And that was the first.
Diane
I mean, when we talked to him about you the other day, the girls, both of them, immediately.
Diane
That's the one they went to.
Diane
So I know what happened.
Diane
I know it was real.
Michael
Well, look what I mean.
Michael
Your father passed away here.
Michael
You got in the car and there was something on the radio that you felt was a message from your father, didn't you?
Diane
Oh, well, that.
Diane
Yeah, that was.
Diane
Yeah, that was last year.
Diane
Might have been last year.
Michael
Yeah.
Michael
This is right after he fell asleep, right after he died, when you guys got in the car from Target, after I called you.
Diane
You keep telling me about this, and I don't.
Diane
Honestly, I don't remember this at all.
Diane
So you'll have to say it.
Michael
Well, basically, I remember when I called you because you and your mother were shopping at Target and he had asked you, he told you go out.
Michael
He told your mother to go out.
Diane
I hadn't.
Diane
I had been staying because we knew it was going to be any time that he was going to pass.
Diane
I had stayed in the house.
Diane
I hadn't gone anywhere for like a solid week.
Diane
Like, I just.
Diane
I don't even think I took a shower.
Diane
Like, I was just.
Diane
I was going to be there, and he just didn't want me there.
Diane
And so when he was cognitive, he.
Diane
He made sure that I was out of the house and he wanted.
Diane
He's.
Diane
I don't remember him telling us.
Diane
I think he might have said something to you, and you were like, your dad wants you to go, or what?
Diane
I don't remember exactly.
Diane
So we were at Target, and I don't think we'd even been there.
Diane
We didn't think we'd been there 20 minutes when you.
Michael
Probably 20 minutes at least.
Michael
Probably 15 or 20 minutes.
Michael
Yeah.
Diane
Yeah.
Diane
And so it happened pretty quick.
Diane
But I remember being.
Diane
You keep telling me the story about that I came in and said something about being in the car, but my.
Michael
Mind was, you come in and you said that you were in the car and that you and your mother were getting ready to come here and that, you know, over the radio, you heard, you know, you heard something over the radio.
Michael
Like, it sound like your father telling you that everything is.
Michael
Was fine.
Diane
Why do I remember that?
Michael
Yeah.
Michael
And that you know, you heard.
Michael
You said, I heard Dad's voice.
Michael
And I just, you know.
Diane
Wow.
Diane
I literally don't remember that.
Diane
But if I came in and said it right, then I'm sure it happened.
Diane
I just, for some reason, don't know why that wouldn't be a core memory.
Diane
But.
Diane
But maybe.
Diane
Maybe that's why this other thing happened.
Diane
Like, I don't know if it was this year or last year, but I drive my dad's car, so his car is my car.
Diane
It's been my car, and I don't want to get rid of it.
Diane
It has a six.
Diane
A six CD changer thing in it, and I don't listen.
Diane
Oh, yeah, that's okay.
Michael
No, I mean, six CD changer.
Diane
It's a 2002.
Diane
It's a 2002.
Diane
Okay.
Diane
All right.
Diane
So anyway, it's got a six CD changer in it.
Diane
I don't listen to CDs.
Diane
I just don't because it's too hot here to leave CDs in the car.
Michael
And.
Diane
Okay, so I'm driving to work.
Michael
Which is another ironic reason for what you're about to say.
Diane
Yes.
Diane
So I'm driving to work, and all of a sudden, the song.
Diane
What was the song?
Michael
It's country song.
Diane
No, it was a song they don't play very often.
Diane
And I believe it was a Rita Coolidge song from the 70s.
Diane
And it was literally.
Diane
Oh, no, no, no, I'm sorry, it wasn't Rita Coolidge.
Diane
It was a Donna Summer song.
Diane
I think it was.
Diane
I think it was Hot Stuff or something.
Diane
I don't know.
Diane
But I.
Diane
As soon as it started playing.
Diane
Which they never play that song.
Diane
As soon as I started playing, I went right back to being a kid.
Diane
And I had that.
Diane
I had a lot of.
Diane
I had, like, a collection of 45 records that I would play all the time.
Diane
And that was one of my favorite songs.
Diane
Of course, it was like I was a kid.
Diane
I know what it meant.
Diane
But anyway, I love the song.
Diane
So I had this memory.
Diane
It went right back to my dad.
Diane
It's not gonna be a great memory, but my dad would say when I go in and.
Diane
Or he'd hear me singing.
Diane
Not necessarily hot stuff, but all kinds of songs.
Diane
And I remember him saying to me, yeah, you're kind of tone deaf.
Diane
You probably shouldn't try to do that as a career or something.
Diane
Something like that.
Diane
I was like 10, 11 years old.
Diane
I don't know.
Diane
Yeah, I was probably 10 or 11.
Diane
So, you know, not a great memory.
Diane
Like your dad telling you Your singing sucks.
Diane
But immediately after that memory, I pushed.
Diane
I always push the buttons on the car.
Diane
I know where my radio stations are.
Diane
They're preset.
Diane
I know exactly where they are.
Diane
I don't have to look.
Diane
Some reason I missed the button and I hit the eject on the CD.
Diane
And all of a sudden the CDs start coming out of the car, like one by one.
Diane
And I'm like, what is.
Diane
What is going on?
Diane
I had to pull over because there was these CDs just spitting out as I'm driving.
Diane
So I pull over and they were all his CDs.
Diane
Every single one of them belonged there.
Diane
And they hadn't melted, and they hadn't melted in years.
Diane
Like, they had been in the CD player since 2016 in this.
Michael
And this was last year.
Michael
Hot 110, 115 degrees.
Diane
Yep.
Diane
And I didn't know they were there.
Diane
I had no idea.
Diane
And so, yeah.
Diane
And so I kind of took that as.
Diane
Since it happened so quickly with that bad memory, I took that as dad saying he was sorry.
Diane
And, you know, it's all good and you can sing.
Michael
So there you go.
Michael
That's the way to do.
Michael
Well, that's a nice, happy way to end the episode.
Michael
I guess it's a nice, good memory.
Michael
Better than one where, you know, you're looking at the mirror and your mother's face comes screaming out of the mirror at you.
Diane
That never happened.
Michael
No, I'm just saying it's better than having one of those, right?
Michael
Oh, yeah.
Michael
See, I didn't tell you about mom, did I?
Michael
Oh, I forgot to tell you.
Michael
I forgot to tell you.
Diane
Mom visited me.
Michael
Yeah, mom visited.
Michael
She says hi.
Diane
Oh, God.
Michael
Sorry, Mom.
Michael
If you're listening.
Diane
No, she wouldn't do that.
Michael
Oh, she might do it for fun, maybe.
Michael
Yeah, he might do it for fun.
Michael
That's about it.
Michael
Well, listen, I.
Michael
It is a.
Michael
This is a little bit of memory, a little bit of reminiscing, a little bit of.
Michael
Maybe they weren't completely really, really, really scary as would be.
Michael
But you know when I wish there's a picture of the demon that I should have put the picture of the demon up to show everybody, but.
Michael
Yeah, just.
Michael
You can draw picture of this big old nasty ass thing with a mouth hanging out, almost like alien.
Michael
Like the alien when he gets down in front of.
Michael
In front of Sigourney Weaver's face on the spaceship and he's drooling and.
Michael
And everything like this.
Michael
Now, this is obviously way before that movie even came out, but, you know, a little more screwed up mouth with a lot more sharper teeth and then horns that just went up and over and then wrapped around and, you know, spiky, nasty, scaly, you know, going, I'm going to get you.
Michael
No, no, I want your soul.
Diane
That's what he was saying.
Michael
Yes.
Michael
I said in my favorite Scottish accent, you can't have it.
Michael
So.
Michael
Yeah, it is.
Michael
Yeah.
Michael
So yeah, that's, that's, that's the memory that sticks with me, that's for damn sure.
Michael
Then that would to me.
Diane
Go ahead.
Michael
To me.
Michael
To me, a 12 year old that was, you know, scared, you know, fighting.
Michael
So I didn't pee my pants though.
Michael
So that's good.
Michael
Did not do that.
Michael
Did not.
Diane
Okay.
Michael
Did not.
Diane
Well, I think we're going to clear the house tonight for sure.
Michael
Oh, absolutely.
Michael
Clear the house tonight.
Michael
Well, everybody hope you have a happy, wonderful Halloween and that you're safe and you're sound and make sure that you wearing reflective clothing if you're taking your kids out before you cross the street and check the candy.
Michael
As a copy and a father, I'm going to tell you to check the candy just in case because unfortunately that kind of stuff still happens where people try to lay stuff because they're just, you know, imbecile idiots that really, you know.
Michael
Yeah, I can go on.
Diane
Not good people.
Michael
No.
Michael
But if you have a, you know, you're having a good party and stuff like that, just be careful, drive safe and watch for kids on the roadway and everybody have fun.
Michael
Happy Halloween.
Diane
Happy Halloween.
Diane
Thanks for listening to this episode of One more thing before you go.
Diane
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